Today, Tuesday, July 22, 2008 was the bond hearing for Casey Anthony. She was being charged with Obstructon for Justice as she would not release who has her almost 3 year old daughter Caylee.
Casey took the Orlando Police Department to many sites in Florida including Universal Studios and Hard Rock Cafe claiming she was employed at these establishments. When the poice had enough of her lies, they arrested her on Obstruction of Justice.
Bond was set today in the amount of $500,000.00 and she must weat a GPS tracking system at all times.
There is a strange timeline regarding Caylee as reported by the grandmother.
June 9, 2008, Casey took Caylee from her mother's house to bond with the child.
June 15, 2008, Cindy, grandmother took Caylee to see her great-grandfather at the nursing home and the grandmother also recorded a video.
June 15 - June 27, 2008 - Casey borrows a shovel from the neighbor.
June 24, 2008 - Casey's finace called Casey to tell her he resigned from the Orlando Police Department and claims he heard Casey tell Caylee to get off the table, and heard Caylee's voice.
June 27, 2008 - Casey's car, owned by her parents was spotted in the parking lot of a check cashing place.
June 30, 2008 - Casey car, owned by her parents was towed by the towing company.
July 15, 2008 - Casey was at her mother's house, letter comes from the towing company about the car. Cindy asks Casey about Caylee and can't get a straight answer so Cindy calls the police.
July 16 - 18, 2008 - Casey takes police on a wild goose chase showing them where she worked, but actually doesn't work there and where Casey left Caylee with a babysitters. Casey arrested on Child Neglect and Obstruction of Justice.
July 23, 2008 - Court issues a $500,000.00 bond with a GPS tracking device.
Somewhere between June 15th and June 27th something happened to Caylee. Even though Jesse Grund, the fiance to Casey said he overhead Caylee voice while speaking to Casey, it doesn't mean it was actually Caylee's voice.
I have so many questions of the grandmother, especially from June 15 to July 15th. We know the grandmother took Caylee to the nursing home, but where did she return Caylee? Did Caylee go back to the grandmother's house where she had been living or did the grandmother drop off Caylee somewhere else?
During the bond hearing the prosecuter asked Cindy (grandmother) whether she knew if her daughter worked. The grandmother said "yes, she has a job as an Event Planner at Universal Studios since the beginning of January 2008. The odd thing is the grandmother never saw her daughter with money, and even had to give her daughter money. Although not strange to the average person in the world but to Cindy ... this was normal.
My question to Cindy would be: "Was your daughter out of the house for 8 hours a day while she was working at Universal Studios and who babysat Caylee?"
By the sounds of the financial situation within the Anthony household, the parents were paying for everything for Casey and Caylee and Casey contributed nothing. The parents were even in default for over $12,000.00 to Bank of America. And according to Cindy, her husband had only obtained a job on July 15th, the day Cindy called the police.
Cindy was not able to tell the court where her husband was working.
The car, the car, the car. Something strange about the car. From around June 27th until July 15th, neither Cindy or her husband Geroge asked Casey about the car. Like "hey Casey, where is OUR car?" The child's car seat was in the car when the car was towed.
Did Casey's parents see Casey between June 15th and July 15th? We know Casey was with her mother on July 15th as the mother called 911, but did Cindy see Casey on June 15th when she returned from the nursing home?
The father of Casey, George called his son on July 15th, not to tell him about the car, or Caylee being missing, but to say something is not right with his mother.
Lee Anthony brother to Casey comes to the house and then finds out about the car, and Caylee and that his mother called the police. A conversation between Lee and his sister Casey, she reveals to her brother she hasn't seen Caylee for 31 days.
Now whether this is true or not remains in question. I believe Lee when he says this is what his sister Casey told him, but I am not sure whether I believe Casey. HOWEVER if you go back 31 days, give or take a day, this brings the day back to June 15, 2008, Father's Day when the grandmother took Caylee to the nursing home to see her great-grandfather.
The parents were unaware that Casey has a passport. Now the prosecuter mentions whether or not Cindy knew if her daughter left the country and Cindy was not aware nor did she know that her daughter has a passport.
How the hell could Cindy not know if her daughter left the country or not because the daughter has been living with the mother for over 3 years. Casey is only 22!
It has been reported that Caylee's biological father died a year ago in a car accident. This remains to be verified because at the bond hearing, Cindy reveals she believed Jesse Grund was the biological father of Caylee. Cindy claims she saw the "obituary" in the newspaper. WTF, you see a lot of obituaries in the newspaper. The odd part is the child, Caylee does not have her father's last name. Well not odd to the world today, but odd in some ways.
Back to the car. Not sure when Cindy and George picked up the car from the towing company, but the car was back at the house. Once the police found out that the car was abandon in a parking lot for three days, they questioned Casey. She claims the car ran out of gas. I sure would like to know if there is any gas in the car when the parents picked up the car. This car is the key!
Once the police seized the car from the Anthony household, it was when they opened up the trunk of the car and the trunk reaked of decomposition. The police brought is two cadaver dogs at different times and both dogs alerted to the decomposition.
When the police questioned the Anthony family, it was then that the family said: "we found a pizza in the trunk full of maggots so we tossed it away"! If I recall correctly it was Cindy, the grandmother that spoke about the pizza.
As it stands, the police found hair in the trunk which was long in length like Caylee's, they found a stain, that needs to be tested as well as some dirt in the trunk!
Casey at one point while in jail calls her brother Lee, franctically wanting Tony's phone number. Tony is an ex-boyfriend of Casey's. Hoever in an interview with the owner of "Fusian Ultra Lounge", Casey recently dated Tony.
Since June, Casey Anthony could be seen at the Fusian Ultra Lounge in the Waterford Lakes area almost every Friday night, Fusian owner Bruce Lam said. She recently dated Anthony Lazzaro, a promoter for the club, he said.
Cindy was RUDE, RUDE, Rude on the stand during the bond hearing. I have never seen a witness on stand like this in my lifetime. Smacking the gum in her mouth, talking about only drinking water and no food, no sleep and so much about her then what the court needed to know. Although it was actually good for everyone to see her testimony on the stand.
It's clear the prosecutor has also been watching Cindy on the cable news and regular news shows, especially with On The Record and Fox in the morning when Cindy didn't want to talk about Casey, just find Caylee.
Well Cindy, the only way anyone is going to find Caylee is to talk to Casey! DUH!!!
The detective reported that Cindy was annoyed when he asked her the name of her father and what nursing home he was in so the detective can go there and review the guest book. Cindy stated in an interview somewhere, that she had to sign in at the nursing home when she visits her father.
Cindy told the detective basically she wasn't going to cooperate with them as she would get the info herself. The detective called Lee, son of Cindy and expressed the need to get this information so they can verify when Cindy and Caylee were at the nursing home.
Did Cindy take the car she let Casey drive to this nursing home or did Cindy use another family car? Did Casey also go to the nursing home with her mother and daughter on Father's Day?"
Something makes me think they took this white Pontiac to the nursing home because it has a child seat in it. The white Pontiac belongs to Casey parent sbut they let her drive it!
Casey wants "immunity" and she will tell the police where Caylee is. This does not sound good at all and I hope that the prosecuter doesn't honor her request.
So, is the Cindy covering up for her daughter?
Is Casey covering up for Cindy?
Does George the father of Casey know anything at all? Although he is a retired law enforcement person, didn't he even wonder where his granddaughter was OR notice the car he owns hasn't been around for two weeks?
Is Jesse Grund part of the whole scenerio? Remember he was a cop at the Orlando Police Department and resigned from the force on June 24th, three days before the car was left in the parking lot and towed on June 30th.
And then there is Anthony Lazzaro, the infamous "Tony", a recent boyfriend of Casey. Casey wanted his phone number ASAP! Is Tony involved too!
The search goes on for Caylee and I pray they find this precious child and that the people involved get the "DEATH PENALTY"!!!!
Tuesday, July 22, 2008
Caylee's Grandmother Speaks Out
This video was done by the Orlando Sentential. Somewhere after July 15th when the police were notified of Caylee disappearance.
First Interview With Caylee's Grandmother - Today Show
This is the first interview with Cindy Anthony, I believe this interview was on Monday, July 21st.
By Mike Celizic
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 9:27 a.m. ET, Mon., July. 21, 2008
Casey Anthony knows who has her missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, but may have lied to investigators to protect the little girl, her mother and attorney said Monday.
“I know Casey knows who has her,” Casey Anthony’s mother, Cindy Anthony, told TODAY’s Ann Curry from the family’s home in Orlando, Fla. “I know Casey doesn’t know where they are right at the moment.”
Cindy Anthony said she might know more if investigators would allow her to speak with her daughter for more than a few moments. She has had one phone call with her since Casey was arrested last week for lying to investigators. She also said that a visit with Casey was cut short by police.
“I think my daughter loves Caylee so much that she will do whatever it takes to protect her,” Cindy Anthony said. “In her own way, she has those reasons inside her why she’s protecting her, and we don’t understand those right now.”
Casey Anthony told her parents last week that Caylee had been missing since June 9, but she didn’t tell anyone for five weeks. Cindy Anthony and her husband, George, called police to report the girl missing, and authorities arrested Casey Anthony when they determined that she had lied to them about the disappearance of her daughter.
The grandparents have started a Web site and distributed fliers to help find Caylee, but Casey Anthony’s attorney, Jose Baez, indicated that the jailed mother knows where her daughter is — or at least who has her.
Why won’t she talk?
Curry asked Baez why his client is unwilling to share the information she has with authorities.
“I know the reason why,” Baez told Curry. “Unfortunately, I can’t disclose that at this time. Based on my conversations with her, I can understand what she’s going through and basically the reason why she did what she did. There is an explanation for all of this. Unfortunately I’m not at liberty to say at the time.”
“Do you fear for her safety?” Curry asked Baez, referring to Caylee.
“Obviously when she’s away from where she’s supposed to be, we all fear for her safety,” Baez said. “She needs to be back home with her family, with the people who love her, and that’s really our ultimate goal here — to have her home and to be with the people who love her.”
Why won’t she talk?
Curry asked Baez why his client is unwilling to share the information she has with authorities.
“I know the reason why,” Baez told Curry. “Unfortunately, I can’t disclose that at this time. Based on my conversations with her, I can understand what she’s going through and basically the reason why she did what she did. There is an explanation for all of this. Unfortunately I’m not at liberty to say at the time.”
“Do you fear for her safety?” Curry asked Baez, referring to Caylee.
“Obviously when she’s away from where she’s supposed to be, we all fear for her safety,” Baez said. “She needs to be back home with her family, with the people who love her, and that’s really our ultimate goal here — to have her home and to be with the people who love her.”
Caylee’s grandmother Cindy Anthony told local media that Casey told her that she received a phone call from Caylee, but that the line went dead when the mother asked to speak to an adult. In her TODAY appearance, Cindy said her daughter had also made that statement to others. She added that her own mother told her on July 5 that she thought she heard Caylee’s voice in the background during a phone conversation with Casey Anthony.
It is unclear who the girl’s father is, according to media reports in Orlando. Casey Anthony has reportedly told authorities that she was employed at a local theme park, but in reality she had been fired from the park two weeks ago. She also reportedly said that the child’s father is dead. She also said she had left the child with a baby sitter who then disappeared — but the address she gave for the baby sitter turned out to be an unoccupied apartment.
‘I forgive her’
Last Thursday and Friday, investigators with shovels and cadaver-sniffing dogs dug up Casey Anthony’s backyard, but found no sign of Caylee.
Cindy Anthony said that Orange County authorities acted too quickly in arresting and jailing her daughter without bond last week and said it was a mistake to keep the single mother in jail.
“I think that was a huge mistake by arresting her that quickly, because she was not able to reach out to her friends and her family to maybe shed some light on the reasons,” the distraught mother said.
A former nurse, Cindy Anthony said that she and her husband George, a former deputy sheriff, saw no signs of drug abuse in their daughter. She said she’d told Casey Anthony that she loves her and supports her.
“I forgive her,” Cindy Anthony said. “I have not said that to her.”
“Forgive her for what?” Curry asked.
“For not telling me sooner, for not telling the police sooner,” Cindy Anthony answered. “Someone can’t come to grips until they’re forgiven. She’s probably not going to be able to tell me everything until I can forgive her.”
By Mike Celizic
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 9:27 a.m. ET, Mon., July. 21, 2008
Casey Anthony knows who has her missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, but may have lied to investigators to protect the little girl, her mother and attorney said Monday.
“I know Casey knows who has her,” Casey Anthony’s mother, Cindy Anthony, told TODAY’s Ann Curry from the family’s home in Orlando, Fla. “I know Casey doesn’t know where they are right at the moment.”
Cindy Anthony said she might know more if investigators would allow her to speak with her daughter for more than a few moments. She has had one phone call with her since Casey was arrested last week for lying to investigators. She also said that a visit with Casey was cut short by police.
“I think my daughter loves Caylee so much that she will do whatever it takes to protect her,” Cindy Anthony said. “In her own way, she has those reasons inside her why she’s protecting her, and we don’t understand those right now.”
Casey Anthony told her parents last week that Caylee had been missing since June 9, but she didn’t tell anyone for five weeks. Cindy Anthony and her husband, George, called police to report the girl missing, and authorities arrested Casey Anthony when they determined that she had lied to them about the disappearance of her daughter.
The grandparents have started a Web site and distributed fliers to help find Caylee, but Casey Anthony’s attorney, Jose Baez, indicated that the jailed mother knows where her daughter is — or at least who has her.
Why won’t she talk?
Curry asked Baez why his client is unwilling to share the information she has with authorities.
“I know the reason why,” Baez told Curry. “Unfortunately, I can’t disclose that at this time. Based on my conversations with her, I can understand what she’s going through and basically the reason why she did what she did. There is an explanation for all of this. Unfortunately I’m not at liberty to say at the time.”
“Do you fear for her safety?” Curry asked Baez, referring to Caylee.
“Obviously when she’s away from where she’s supposed to be, we all fear for her safety,” Baez said. “She needs to be back home with her family, with the people who love her, and that’s really our ultimate goal here — to have her home and to be with the people who love her.”
Why won’t she talk?
Curry asked Baez why his client is unwilling to share the information she has with authorities.
“I know the reason why,” Baez told Curry. “Unfortunately, I can’t disclose that at this time. Based on my conversations with her, I can understand what she’s going through and basically the reason why she did what she did. There is an explanation for all of this. Unfortunately I’m not at liberty to say at the time.”
“Do you fear for her safety?” Curry asked Baez, referring to Caylee.
“Obviously when she’s away from where she’s supposed to be, we all fear for her safety,” Baez said. “She needs to be back home with her family, with the people who love her, and that’s really our ultimate goal here — to have her home and to be with the people who love her.”
Caylee’s grandmother Cindy Anthony told local media that Casey told her that she received a phone call from Caylee, but that the line went dead when the mother asked to speak to an adult. In her TODAY appearance, Cindy said her daughter had also made that statement to others. She added that her own mother told her on July 5 that she thought she heard Caylee’s voice in the background during a phone conversation with Casey Anthony.
It is unclear who the girl’s father is, according to media reports in Orlando. Casey Anthony has reportedly told authorities that she was employed at a local theme park, but in reality she had been fired from the park two weeks ago. She also reportedly said that the child’s father is dead. She also said she had left the child with a baby sitter who then disappeared — but the address she gave for the baby sitter turned out to be an unoccupied apartment.
‘I forgive her’
Last Thursday and Friday, investigators with shovels and cadaver-sniffing dogs dug up Casey Anthony’s backyard, but found no sign of Caylee.
Cindy Anthony said that Orange County authorities acted too quickly in arresting and jailing her daughter without bond last week and said it was a mistake to keep the single mother in jail.
“I think that was a huge mistake by arresting her that quickly, because she was not able to reach out to her friends and her family to maybe shed some light on the reasons,” the distraught mother said.
A former nurse, Cindy Anthony said that she and her husband George, a former deputy sheriff, saw no signs of drug abuse in their daughter. She said she’d told Casey Anthony that she loves her and supports her.
“I forgive her,” Cindy Anthony said. “I have not said that to her.”
“Forgive her for what?” Curry asked.
“For not telling me sooner, for not telling the police sooner,” Cindy Anthony answered. “Someone can’t come to grips until they’re forgiven. She’s probably not going to be able to tell me everything until I can forgive her.”
Where Is Caylee?
Something is very, very wrong here regarding the disappearance of Caylee. When I first heard this story last week, I found it odd right from the start.
As it stands, Casey, the mother of Caylee is in jail for "obstruction of Justice". This all came about because Casey took the police on this wild ride to places where she claims Caylee went and even to Universal Studios, of which, she hasn't worked there in years.
On Nancy Grace the other night, Nancy interviewed the grandmother and Nancy clearly asked if Casey heard from Caylee. The grandmother said NO but now the grandmother comes out and says that she witnessed a phone call from Caylee to Casey but when she went to speak to Caylee the phone went dead. This was suppose tohave taken place on July 15th.
Now, reports are out that Casey car, of which, the grandparents own, was found abandon in a parking lot and was towed on June 30th. Although reports say that Casey said the "car ran out of gas", why didn't Casey call her mother to bring some gas? Does the car actually have gas in it?
How the heck did Casey get to her mother's house on July 15th when the grandmother witnessed the phone call between Casey and Caylee without the car and why didn't her mother ask "where is my car?"
Caylee was reported missing by the grandmother on July 15th supposingly after this "phone call".
The grandmother claims Casey left with Caylee on June 9th in order to bond with Caylee! OK, so where did Casey go and live especially since she was living with her mother? This makes no sense to me at all!
The child seat was left in the car which to me is a big clue because the child has to be transported in a car seat!
The mother says on national TV that she "forgives her daughter". Hummmmm!
The more Nancy Grace asked about Casey as well as when Greta "On The REcord" asked about Casey the more Cindy spoke about Caylee. In the case with Greta's interview, the Grandmother spoke more about herself. See video below! {Odd that the video is no longer on Greta's blog!)
Cindy says on Nancy Grace that Casey knew this person who babysits for Caylee for 3 or 4 years and wouldn't reveal her name. But on Greta's show, the grandmother said for a year or year and a half.
Secrets, secrets, secrets. There are secrets here between the mother and daughter. The grandmother knows what happended and I think she is covering for her daughter. Something happened on June 9th and more than likely people are wondering where Caylee is ...........
The first thing I thought of when I saw the grandmother's first interview was "Susan Smith" ... all this emotion and no tears!
Based on the video below, it is clear something is just not right! I feel this grandmother is liking all this attention ....
This woman, Cindy, needs to stay the heck home in Florida rather than flying all around giving interviews. The media WILL come to her house and do the interview. If this was me, I would insist on being home so I could stay by the phone or search the state of Florida for my granddaughter.
Why fly all over, and not be available to go to the jail, when given the opportunity to sit down with her daughter.
Cindy's interview was not about Caylee, but on herself, and gave very little to help anyone look for the child. Cindy should have mentioned that Casey has or had a boyfriend, not that the boyfriend is the cause of the disapperance of the child. I just can't remember what Cindy said about the boyfriend either not ever seeing the child or didn't know about the child, but something was said ... just can't remember. I know this boyfriend was interviewed by someone, probably the police.
It sounds like Casey is a liar and maybe suffering from some sort of mental disorder, whether it be from when Caylee's father was killed in a car accident, or some sort of depression making her disconnect from reality, but clearly something is wrong.
All I heard was lack of sleep, not eating, I am going to fall down right on the stage, the "limo" ride exhaustion and on and on about Cindy. Now the timeline of when Cindy last seen Casey is off!
I have a feeling this child is not alive anymore and eventually it will all surface. This all happened around June 9th, should this be the truth of the day Casey left with Caylee to bond.
As it stands, Casey, the mother of Caylee is in jail for "obstruction of Justice". This all came about because Casey took the police on this wild ride to places where she claims Caylee went and even to Universal Studios, of which, she hasn't worked there in years.
On Nancy Grace the other night, Nancy interviewed the grandmother and Nancy clearly asked if Casey heard from Caylee. The grandmother said NO but now the grandmother comes out and says that she witnessed a phone call from Caylee to Casey but when she went to speak to Caylee the phone went dead. This was suppose tohave taken place on July 15th.
Now, reports are out that Casey car, of which, the grandparents own, was found abandon in a parking lot and was towed on June 30th. Although reports say that Casey said the "car ran out of gas", why didn't Casey call her mother to bring some gas? Does the car actually have gas in it?
How the heck did Casey get to her mother's house on July 15th when the grandmother witnessed the phone call between Casey and Caylee without the car and why didn't her mother ask "where is my car?"
Caylee was reported missing by the grandmother on July 15th supposingly after this "phone call".
The grandmother claims Casey left with Caylee on June 9th in order to bond with Caylee! OK, so where did Casey go and live especially since she was living with her mother? This makes no sense to me at all!
The child seat was left in the car which to me is a big clue because the child has to be transported in a car seat!
The mother says on national TV that she "forgives her daughter". Hummmmm!
The more Nancy Grace asked about Casey as well as when Greta "On The REcord" asked about Casey the more Cindy spoke about Caylee. In the case with Greta's interview, the Grandmother spoke more about herself. See video below! {Odd that the video is no longer on Greta's blog!)
Cindy says on Nancy Grace that Casey knew this person who babysits for Caylee for 3 or 4 years and wouldn't reveal her name. But on Greta's show, the grandmother said for a year or year and a half.
Secrets, secrets, secrets. There are secrets here between the mother and daughter. The grandmother knows what happended and I think she is covering for her daughter. Something happened on June 9th and more than likely people are wondering where Caylee is ...........
The first thing I thought of when I saw the grandmother's first interview was "Susan Smith" ... all this emotion and no tears!
Based on the video below, it is clear something is just not right! I feel this grandmother is liking all this attention ....
This woman, Cindy, needs to stay the heck home in Florida rather than flying all around giving interviews. The media WILL come to her house and do the interview. If this was me, I would insist on being home so I could stay by the phone or search the state of Florida for my granddaughter.
Why fly all over, and not be available to go to the jail, when given the opportunity to sit down with her daughter.
Cindy's interview was not about Caylee, but on herself, and gave very little to help anyone look for the child. Cindy should have mentioned that Casey has or had a boyfriend, not that the boyfriend is the cause of the disapperance of the child. I just can't remember what Cindy said about the boyfriend either not ever seeing the child or didn't know about the child, but something was said ... just can't remember. I know this boyfriend was interviewed by someone, probably the police.
It sounds like Casey is a liar and maybe suffering from some sort of mental disorder, whether it be from when Caylee's father was killed in a car accident, or some sort of depression making her disconnect from reality, but clearly something is wrong.
All I heard was lack of sleep, not eating, I am going to fall down right on the stage, the "limo" ride exhaustion and on and on about Cindy. Now the timeline of when Cindy last seen Casey is off!
I have a feeling this child is not alive anymore and eventually it will all surface. This all happened around June 9th, should this be the truth of the day Casey left with Caylee to bond.
Saturday, July 19, 2008
Friday, July 18, 2008
Nancy Cooper
I feel that something happened to Nancy in her home after she left the house party late Friday evening.
I feel there was a heated argument once they returned home and he killed her and then put her in her jogging clothes in order to prepare a statement "she went jogging at 7:00 AM". It might have even been premeditated. Once the media releases what she was wearing will determine in part what happened.
I don't feel that Nancy's normal routine of jogging would last more than an hour as she has two little children to care for ESPECIALLY since she was dealing with marital issues at home and may fear her husband would take the children away while she was out jogging.
I feel it was the right thing for the grandparents and sister to ask for custody of the children. The couple are not Americans and based on this murder investigation, should he get arrested, the main concern would be the children.
It's better they go with the grandparents in Canada then to get caught up in Children's Services in America. The children do not have a relative in the United States because both parents are Canadian . The children were born in America as far I as understand..
The father of the children could have protested the petition in court but the way it sounds he didn't nor did he report his wife missing, look for her, or even go to the press conference.
People ask where were her parents all this time? Well, they live in Canada, a great distance from North Carolina and have a family business.
Since the young children already have passports at the age of 2 and 4, chances are the family traveled to Canada on occasion to visit family.
I am curious to know who watched the children while they were at the house party on Friday evening. The babysitter would possible know of the demeanor of both of them when they returned home from the party. The babysitter would also be able to tell the police what Nancy wore that evening to the party as well as the people at the party. The people at the party would also be able to notice if there was friction between them at the party.
When a rumor gets leaked out about him buying bleach at a variety store at 4:00 AM sound very plausible. Something could have taken place in the garage, if they have one, but clearly something happened in that household. If she was dead and he left the house in the middle of the night, these little babies were left all alone.
It sickens me if this is the way it happened and thank goodness the children didn't wake up looking for their mother.
Friends set up a blogspot regarding Nancy and updates.
http://nancycooper.blogspot.com/
Court documents filed in custody hearing of the children by their maternal grandparents and aunt.
http://media.mgnetwork.com/ncn/pdf/080717_cooper.pdf
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1144533.html
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=663895
I feel there was a heated argument once they returned home and he killed her and then put her in her jogging clothes in order to prepare a statement "she went jogging at 7:00 AM". It might have even been premeditated. Once the media releases what she was wearing will determine in part what happened.
I don't feel that Nancy's normal routine of jogging would last more than an hour as she has two little children to care for ESPECIALLY since she was dealing with marital issues at home and may fear her husband would take the children away while she was out jogging.
I feel it was the right thing for the grandparents and sister to ask for custody of the children. The couple are not Americans and based on this murder investigation, should he get arrested, the main concern would be the children.
It's better they go with the grandparents in Canada then to get caught up in Children's Services in America. The children do not have a relative in the United States because both parents are Canadian . The children were born in America as far I as understand..
The father of the children could have protested the petition in court but the way it sounds he didn't nor did he report his wife missing, look for her, or even go to the press conference.
People ask where were her parents all this time? Well, they live in Canada, a great distance from North Carolina and have a family business.
Since the young children already have passports at the age of 2 and 4, chances are the family traveled to Canada on occasion to visit family.
I am curious to know who watched the children while they were at the house party on Friday evening. The babysitter would possible know of the demeanor of both of them when they returned home from the party. The babysitter would also be able to tell the police what Nancy wore that evening to the party as well as the people at the party. The people at the party would also be able to notice if there was friction between them at the party.
When a rumor gets leaked out about him buying bleach at a variety store at 4:00 AM sound very plausible. Something could have taken place in the garage, if they have one, but clearly something happened in that household. If she was dead and he left the house in the middle of the night, these little babies were left all alone.
It sickens me if this is the way it happened and thank goodness the children didn't wake up looking for their mother.
Friends set up a blogspot regarding Nancy and updates.
http://nancycooper.blogspot.com/
Court documents filed in custody hearing of the children by their maternal grandparents and aunt.
http://media.mgnetwork.com/ncn/pdf/080717_cooper.pdf
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1144533.html
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=663895
Thursday, March 20, 2008
Florida and Michigan
The people in Florida and Michigan NEED to be heard. It is not the people’s fault that their votes do not count. We need to get this resolved and resolved quickly.
We the people, For the people, By the people ….. let OUR votes count.
In Florida, where I live, I personally feel that the people who voted, should be as is and let the delegates be assigned based on the outcome of the voters.
In Michigan, they can do a mini election with just Obama’s name on the ballot, since Obama’s name was eliminated. I think Obama took his name off but don’t hold me to this statement.
Neither state should do a complete “do-over” as it would not be fair based on the recent events regarding Obama.
Michigan and Florida are hungry to get this mess settled. We want to be heard and we want our votes to count and be a part of the United States of America. Right now both states feel like alien countries.
If I had the capability and money, I would start a protest in all the states within the USA asking them not to attend the Democractic National Convention until FLorida and Michigan is resolved.
The people in the USA, need to unite and support the two states left “high and dry.” Talk about uniting this country … We the people, can do it, For the people, By the people.
We the people, For the people, By the people ….. let OUR votes count.
In Florida, where I live, I personally feel that the people who voted, should be as is and let the delegates be assigned based on the outcome of the voters.
In Michigan, they can do a mini election with just Obama’s name on the ballot, since Obama’s name was eliminated. I think Obama took his name off but don’t hold me to this statement.
Neither state should do a complete “do-over” as it would not be fair based on the recent events regarding Obama.
Michigan and Florida are hungry to get this mess settled. We want to be heard and we want our votes to count and be a part of the United States of America. Right now both states feel like alien countries.
If I had the capability and money, I would start a protest in all the states within the USA asking them not to attend the Democractic National Convention until FLorida and Michigan is resolved.
The people in the USA, need to unite and support the two states left “high and dry.” Talk about uniting this country … We the people, can do it, For the people, By the people.
Sunday, February 17, 2008
Will My Vote Actually Count?
I am so confused over this entire election process that right now living in Florida I am not even sure if my vote in November will even matter. Now that I write that statement, it is obvious based on the last two elections my vote didn't matter.
The only way for the entire election process to work is to drop the delegates from the system and let the popular vote count. So many other countries have a simple process of voting and that is by the people and their votes count.
I don't like the fact that delegates and super delegates are chosen to represent ME, and my thought process. I want to represent myself and let my "one stroke of the handle" on the voting machine to mean something.
I am totally "uneducated" with what happened in Michigan and Florida, who agreed to it, why it was allowed and so on. I just don't understand how two states within the United States of America are completely powerless.
During the 2000 Presidential election, after voting, I went to Sweden to visit some friends. The people in Sweden were following the happenings here in the USA and there were in totally amazement of what was happening with regards to the votes, ballots, courts and so on. I was actually embarrassed when they would ask me "why is this happening?" I couldn't even answer them because I was shocked myself. They told me about their voting system, so simple, and straight-forward.
If "he" gets in, I am really afraid we will be in turmoil in so many ways. You can't run this country like a "revival" meeting with speeches, hip and a hop, and mumbled words. It's just not going to work!
I remember when I went to a good "ole" down to earth Baptist Church and felt the energy, and stamina from the people "praising, shouting and singing". It is an energy I never felt before. I actually enjoyed it while I was there, and a few days after. But then life set back in and the energy was gone unless I decided to go back for another "uplift".
This is how I feel about "him", it's a great energy, lots of chanting and stamina, until the day ends and life and problems are still facing you.
http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/
The only way for the entire election process to work is to drop the delegates from the system and let the popular vote count. So many other countries have a simple process of voting and that is by the people and their votes count.
I don't like the fact that delegates and super delegates are chosen to represent ME, and my thought process. I want to represent myself and let my "one stroke of the handle" on the voting machine to mean something.
I am totally "uneducated" with what happened in Michigan and Florida, who agreed to it, why it was allowed and so on. I just don't understand how two states within the United States of America are completely powerless.
During the 2000 Presidential election, after voting, I went to Sweden to visit some friends. The people in Sweden were following the happenings here in the USA and there were in totally amazement of what was happening with regards to the votes, ballots, courts and so on. I was actually embarrassed when they would ask me "why is this happening?" I couldn't even answer them because I was shocked myself. They told me about their voting system, so simple, and straight-forward.
If "he" gets in, I am really afraid we will be in turmoil in so many ways. You can't run this country like a "revival" meeting with speeches, hip and a hop, and mumbled words. It's just not going to work!
I remember when I went to a good "ole" down to earth Baptist Church and felt the energy, and stamina from the people "praising, shouting and singing". It is an energy I never felt before. I actually enjoyed it while I was there, and a few days after. But then life set back in and the energy was gone unless I decided to go back for another "uplift".
This is how I feel about "him", it's a great energy, lots of chanting and stamina, until the day ends and life and problems are still facing you.
http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/
Take The Race And Gender Out!
I have taken out the gender and race from all the Democratic candidates and made them all the “traditional” white males that have been President of the United States since 1789 when George Washington became the first President of the United States.
If you keep in the gender and race then it becomes a “circus” because all you are hearing in the first black male candidate and first woman candidate. Although you never hear first “white” woman candidate.
Once the gender and race is removed, then you have to see both candidates as white men saying what they both are saying and who is the best candidate for the next President of the United States of America.
Then we have to add in where we stand in our country right at the moment with the crisis of what has happened over the nearly 8 years. The key is 8 years of a mess, which is much harder to clean up then if it was 4 years of a mess.
I have to go back to the Nixon years, and Vietnam, Watergate, and the major mess of what happened during 1969 to 1974. Most of the voters in 2008 don’t even recall what happened back then and the years it took to uncover all the wrong-doing during this administration.
In essence, the Bush Administration has repeated itself in a similar format what was going on during the Nixon Administration. Both have wars under their belts, both have cover-ups, etc., etc.
Now I go back to the two candidates: Obama and Clinton, in my eyes two “white” males. I look at their experiences and what they have accomplished.
In my eyes, out pops Clinton although not officially a Governor or a Former President but one that has been surrounded by what it was like to be Governor of a State and actual first-hand knowledge of life as a President, dealing with heads of states etc., plus all that was accomplished throughout 35 years.
When you separate gender and race, you get a clearer picture of the person and look at what would be best for our country.
Once the race and gender is put back into the scenerio, you will see things in a much different format.
If one candidate is elected. the general public needs to understand there will be no more “revival speeches” sending chills up and down people’s spines.
The next President will be without the crowds of people and will be sitting in the White House running the country by their choice. We won’t know if what they promised will be carried forward.
This is why it is important to go with experience to get this world out of China, out of debt, out of War, and follow through with healthcare, immigration, and all issues at hand that have not been completed in the last 8 years.
I feel Clinton will be the one to hold the Bush Administration accountable for the last 8 years, plus bring forward all the promises pledged to this country regarding all the issues at hand.
If you keep in the gender and race then it becomes a “circus” because all you are hearing in the first black male candidate and first woman candidate. Although you never hear first “white” woman candidate.
Once the gender and race is removed, then you have to see both candidates as white men saying what they both are saying and who is the best candidate for the next President of the United States of America.
Then we have to add in where we stand in our country right at the moment with the crisis of what has happened over the nearly 8 years. The key is 8 years of a mess, which is much harder to clean up then if it was 4 years of a mess.
I have to go back to the Nixon years, and Vietnam, Watergate, and the major mess of what happened during 1969 to 1974. Most of the voters in 2008 don’t even recall what happened back then and the years it took to uncover all the wrong-doing during this administration.
In essence, the Bush Administration has repeated itself in a similar format what was going on during the Nixon Administration. Both have wars under their belts, both have cover-ups, etc., etc.
Now I go back to the two candidates: Obama and Clinton, in my eyes two “white” males. I look at their experiences and what they have accomplished.
In my eyes, out pops Clinton although not officially a Governor or a Former President but one that has been surrounded by what it was like to be Governor of a State and actual first-hand knowledge of life as a President, dealing with heads of states etc., plus all that was accomplished throughout 35 years.
When you separate gender and race, you get a clearer picture of the person and look at what would be best for our country.
Once the race and gender is put back into the scenerio, you will see things in a much different format.
If one candidate is elected. the general public needs to understand there will be no more “revival speeches” sending chills up and down people’s spines.
The next President will be without the crowds of people and will be sitting in the White House running the country by their choice. We won’t know if what they promised will be carried forward.
This is why it is important to go with experience to get this world out of China, out of debt, out of War, and follow through with healthcare, immigration, and all issues at hand that have not been completed in the last 8 years.
I feel Clinton will be the one to hold the Bush Administration accountable for the last 8 years, plus bring forward all the promises pledged to this country regarding all the issues at hand.
Thursday, January 24, 2008
Search Is On For Cesar Laurean
Late afternoon on January 10, 2008 after Cesar told his wife Christina about the death of Maria Lauterback Cesar started to plan his departure on January 11, 2008.
I personally feel Christina knew what happened on December 14th.
Cesar knew that the police were on his trail once Sheriff Brown was made aware that during the preliminary investigation into Maria's disappearance unveiled the rape charges against Cesar on January 1, 2008.
As Cesar and Christina sat down and wrote the note, that was suppose to be found when Christina woke up, Cesar also check with bus lines to see which bus line will bring him into Mexico.
There is a Trailways Bus Line in Jacksonville, but this would be too obvious since this is where Maria bought her one-way ticket to El Paso. Although, based on how Cesar did all he did with killing Maria, burying her in his own backyard, going to Lowes on December 16th, 2007 to buy paint, cement blocks, shovels, and a wheelbarrow, including using Maria's ATM card. Then using Maria's ATM card on December 24th and then celebrating the Christmas Holidays and New Year's having a fire on top of Maria's dead body as she carried Cesar's son, bareley 8 1/2 months gestation, a child now called Gabriel Joseph; I am surprised he didn't go to Trailways to get his ticket.
As Cesar prepared to leave his wife and his 18 month old daughter, he packed some clothing and collected what money was available. There are reports that money was wired to him and Christina somewhere between Decmber 10 to January 12th. I don't doubt money was sent to him as he needed money to escape. I figure, if he had to use Maria's ATM card on December 16th to purchase the items at Lowe's and then again on December 24th, chances are the Lauren's were very short on money.
I am not sure who sent them the money. It might be Christina or Cesar's parents. I just feel the money was sent within the United States and it didn't come from Mexico.
Somewhere between the hours of 6:30 AM to 8:30 AM, Cesar left his home and headed out on his journey to escape being arrested. I personally do not believe Cesar left any earlier than 8:00 AM because I feel, that he wanted to be with his young daughter, for at least an hour or so. Also he needed to listen to any morning show, perhpas The Today Show to see what Sheriff Brown was going to update regarding Maria. Sheriff Brown, on Friday, January 11, 2008, believed they would find Maria, and in his voice you could almost feel as though she would be found alive.
It was after the segment with Sheriff Brown that Cesar took off in his black pick-up truck and drove ~145 miles to Morrisville, North Carolina. At some point he took refuge either in the hotel in Morrisville, or just plain feel asleep in his truck until Saturday, January 12th, 2008.
Sometime during his short stay between Morrisville and Raleigh/Durham is when Cesar wrote a letter to his wife and mailed it from the area.
At some point, Cesar abondon his truck at the hotel in Morrisville and then walked or perhpas took a taxi to Raleigh/Durham. The distance between Morrisville and Raleigh is only 16 miles. He may have even hitched a ride from a vehicle passing by using his camaflouge uniform as a way to get a ride to Raleigh.
At some point, either Cesar deliberatly planted Maria's ATM card near the bus depot as well as also planting Maria's credit card. I am not sure if this bus depot was for Greyhound or Trailways, but I feel this isn't the bus line he bought his ticket.
On Nancy Grace's show on January 22, 2007, it was mentioned that Cesar used Tonado Bus lines to get from Houston, Texas to San Luis De La Paz, Mexico. They also mentioned on the show the cost of the ticket from Houston, Texas to San Luis De La Paz, Mexico, of which, was around $189.00.
http://www.tornadobus.com/
4005 New Burn Avenue
Raleigh, NC 27610
919 212-1448
http://www.mcicoach.com/enTouchCMS/app/viewDocument?docID=487
I feel Cesar took Tornado Bus Lines right out of Raleigh/Durham because Torando Bus Lines has destinations in Raleigh as well as Charlotte.
It takes 30 hours by bus to go from Raleigh, North Carolina to Houston, Texas. And it takes an addtional 24 hours to go from Houston, Texas to San Luis De La Paz, Mexico. That is 54 hours or 2 and 1/4 days on a bus.
Now we know why there was no sight of Cesar for 2 1/4 days as he was on a bus. I do not know the bus schedule stops within cities along the way, but I wouldn't be surprised if the sighting of Cesar in Shervesport, Louisiana was real.
During all the hours of traveling, Cesar wrote another letter, possibly two and once he stopped over in Houston, Texas he mailed the letter.
I feel that the ticket, based now on what was reported via Nancy Grace, the bus ticket Cesar purchased in Raleigh, North Carolina led the police to think he is sitting in Texas. But that isn't the case as he bought another ticket from Houston, Texas to San Luis De La Paz, Mexico. This would make Cesar arriving in San Luis De La Paz, Mexico late Monday on January 14th.
Based on the interview with Cesar's cousin: Juan Antonio Ramos Ramirez told The Associated Press that Laurean walked into his liquor store on Jan. 14 or 15, and the two cousins chatted for 10 minutes about their families. Laurean then told Ramirez that he had to get back to two friends outside, but he might return. He never did.
The timeline fits!
Nothing would surprise me if Cesar didn't hop back on Torando Bus Lines and head back to the states. Torando Buses are RED, like a Red Torpedo! My goodness how was the bus missed for over all this time.
Although Cesar did what he did, and so much like a brain-dead Marine, he did do something right, he got on a bus and headed out of dodge. The chances of the FBI stopping all the buses throughout the states was slim to none.
Now we have to wait to see, if the local people in Mexico will do the right thing and turn in Cesar!
The almighty American dollars is pretty valuable in Mexico.
5,000.00 USD = 54,748.39 MXN United States Dollars Mexico Pesos
1 USD = 10.9497 MXN 1 MXN = 0.0913269 USD
I personally feel Christina knew what happened on December 14th.
Cesar knew that the police were on his trail once Sheriff Brown was made aware that during the preliminary investigation into Maria's disappearance unveiled the rape charges against Cesar on January 1, 2008.
As Cesar and Christina sat down and wrote the note, that was suppose to be found when Christina woke up, Cesar also check with bus lines to see which bus line will bring him into Mexico.
There is a Trailways Bus Line in Jacksonville, but this would be too obvious since this is where Maria bought her one-way ticket to El Paso. Although, based on how Cesar did all he did with killing Maria, burying her in his own backyard, going to Lowes on December 16th, 2007 to buy paint, cement blocks, shovels, and a wheelbarrow, including using Maria's ATM card. Then using Maria's ATM card on December 24th and then celebrating the Christmas Holidays and New Year's having a fire on top of Maria's dead body as she carried Cesar's son, bareley 8 1/2 months gestation, a child now called Gabriel Joseph; I am surprised he didn't go to Trailways to get his ticket.
As Cesar prepared to leave his wife and his 18 month old daughter, he packed some clothing and collected what money was available. There are reports that money was wired to him and Christina somewhere between Decmber 10 to January 12th. I don't doubt money was sent to him as he needed money to escape. I figure, if he had to use Maria's ATM card on December 16th to purchase the items at Lowe's and then again on December 24th, chances are the Lauren's were very short on money.
I am not sure who sent them the money. It might be Christina or Cesar's parents. I just feel the money was sent within the United States and it didn't come from Mexico.
Somewhere between the hours of 6:30 AM to 8:30 AM, Cesar left his home and headed out on his journey to escape being arrested. I personally do not believe Cesar left any earlier than 8:00 AM because I feel, that he wanted to be with his young daughter, for at least an hour or so. Also he needed to listen to any morning show, perhpas The Today Show to see what Sheriff Brown was going to update regarding Maria. Sheriff Brown, on Friday, January 11, 2008, believed they would find Maria, and in his voice you could almost feel as though she would be found alive.
It was after the segment with Sheriff Brown that Cesar took off in his black pick-up truck and drove ~145 miles to Morrisville, North Carolina. At some point he took refuge either in the hotel in Morrisville, or just plain feel asleep in his truck until Saturday, January 12th, 2008.
Sometime during his short stay between Morrisville and Raleigh/Durham is when Cesar wrote a letter to his wife and mailed it from the area.
At some point, Cesar abondon his truck at the hotel in Morrisville and then walked or perhpas took a taxi to Raleigh/Durham. The distance between Morrisville and Raleigh is only 16 miles. He may have even hitched a ride from a vehicle passing by using his camaflouge uniform as a way to get a ride to Raleigh.
At some point, either Cesar deliberatly planted Maria's ATM card near the bus depot as well as also planting Maria's credit card. I am not sure if this bus depot was for Greyhound or Trailways, but I feel this isn't the bus line he bought his ticket.
On Nancy Grace's show on January 22, 2007, it was mentioned that Cesar used Tonado Bus lines to get from Houston, Texas to San Luis De La Paz, Mexico. They also mentioned on the show the cost of the ticket from Houston, Texas to San Luis De La Paz, Mexico, of which, was around $189.00.
http://www.tornadobus.com/
4005 New Burn Avenue
Raleigh, NC 27610
919 212-1448
http://www.mcicoach.com/enTouchCMS/app/viewDocument?docID=487
I feel Cesar took Tornado Bus Lines right out of Raleigh/Durham because Torando Bus Lines has destinations in Raleigh as well as Charlotte.
It takes 30 hours by bus to go from Raleigh, North Carolina to Houston, Texas. And it takes an addtional 24 hours to go from Houston, Texas to San Luis De La Paz, Mexico. That is 54 hours or 2 and 1/4 days on a bus.
Now we know why there was no sight of Cesar for 2 1/4 days as he was on a bus. I do not know the bus schedule stops within cities along the way, but I wouldn't be surprised if the sighting of Cesar in Shervesport, Louisiana was real.
During all the hours of traveling, Cesar wrote another letter, possibly two and once he stopped over in Houston, Texas he mailed the letter.
I feel that the ticket, based now on what was reported via Nancy Grace, the bus ticket Cesar purchased in Raleigh, North Carolina led the police to think he is sitting in Texas. But that isn't the case as he bought another ticket from Houston, Texas to San Luis De La Paz, Mexico. This would make Cesar arriving in San Luis De La Paz, Mexico late Monday on January 14th.
Based on the interview with Cesar's cousin: Juan Antonio Ramos Ramirez told The Associated Press that Laurean walked into his liquor store on Jan. 14 or 15, and the two cousins chatted for 10 minutes about their families. Laurean then told Ramirez that he had to get back to two friends outside, but he might return. He never did.
The timeline fits!
Nothing would surprise me if Cesar didn't hop back on Torando Bus Lines and head back to the states. Torando Buses are RED, like a Red Torpedo! My goodness how was the bus missed for over all this time.
Although Cesar did what he did, and so much like a brain-dead Marine, he did do something right, he got on a bus and headed out of dodge. The chances of the FBI stopping all the buses throughout the states was slim to none.
Now we have to wait to see, if the local people in Mexico will do the right thing and turn in Cesar!
The almighty American dollars is pretty valuable in Mexico.
5,000.00 USD = 54,748.39 MXN United States Dollars Mexico Pesos
1 USD = 10.9497 MXN 1 MXN = 0.0913269 USD
Friday, January 18, 2008
Lauterbach, Laurean Love Triangle
Is it possible there was the old-fashioned Love Triangle going on between Maria, Cesar and Christina?
As evidence comes forward from local law enforcement, Marines, FBI, Christina, Maria's actions, Cesar's rage, who is protecting who and why?
Right now I have to take out of the picture the rape charges that Maria filed and put them aside for a moment and just go from December 14th, 2007.
For some strange reason, Maria decided to buy a one-way ticket to El Paso, Texas on the 14th of December, which was to be used the following day on the 15th of December.
It makes no sense at all why a 8 1/2 month pregnant woman would want to go to Texas, a state where she has no relatives, no friends, no doctor, no health insurance, fully knowing she would be AWOL based on military protocol, barely enough clothing and money just to get away from it all.
I remember when I was 8 1/2 months pregnant and needed help just to get off the sofa or toilet bowl never mind taking a bus for hours to another state. Then once in Texas, with no car, no idea where to find the hotel, or a taxi or even the bus schedule, manage to get to a hotel and get a room. This makes no sense to me at all.
I also remember when I moved to Florida from Pennsylvania, not pregnant and felt like this tiny little ant in a gigantic state. I didn't know even how to find my new home without directions and needed to carry directions with me for a while in order to get back I also had to print out directions to get to the store and back.
It is very intimidating when alone in a new state, or even a new city within a familiar state to get around. And with Maria, she didn't even have a car with her.
That brings up another point, why didn't she just drive herself to Texas if she was just going to leave the marines and start a new life? At least she had a car to get around.
Even though there was a Military Order of Protection in force, I need to put this aside also because it's just a piece of paper.
There was some sort of a plan here, a plan perhaps between Maria and Cesar. I started to feel this way after the statement was released that Christina gave to the police:
Cesar Laurean, 21, also told her that Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach showed up at his home on Dec. 15 to tell him she was leaving Jacksonville and demanded money from Laurean. The two then went to a bus station where he helped her buy a ticket to El Paso, Texas, the warrant said.
Christina Laurean told Onslow County sheriff's detective John Dubois that a disoriented and agitated Lauterbach returned to Cesar Laurean's house later that night and told him that "her plan had failed, that an argument ensued" and that she produced a knife and killed herself by slitting her throat."
I am beginning to believe Cesar went with Maria to get a bus ticket to El Paso, with the belief Cesar would meet her in El Paso and that Maria would be taken care of by Cesar's family whether within the USA or Mexico.
Note: Mexican families are very family-oriented and take care of their own and keep it within the family Mexican families are very, very close!
Not sure what happened after the ticket was purchased because police feel Maria was killed on the 14th.
My thoughts based on what was reported on Nancy Grace, on Jan Th's show, Christina was not at home on December 14th as she was attending a Christmas Party, of which, Cesar was suppose to come to the party but never showed up.
Neighbor's reported seeing Maria's car on the Laurean street with Cesar driving the car.
Somehow I have to get Maria's car at the bus station and I feel it might have gone this way.
1.) I have to keep in mind that Christina had to have been home during the day before she went to the Christmas Party, so Maria and Cesar had to have met in town to purchase this bus ticket. Maria took her car and Cesar drove his truck.
2.) Or Christina may have been on base (I believe she is in the Marines too but not sure) which then would allow Maria to drive to Cesar's home to pick him up and they went to the bus depot together. I states this only because of Christina's statement to the police that Maria was at the house twice on the 14th.
The plans were set in motion but one of them got cold-feet. Did Cesar call Maria and tell her his plans changed and he isn't going to Texas?
A very young, hormonal pregnant woman would have certainly gotten very upset and could have driven to Cesar's house.
Maria had already left a note for her roommate indicating she was leaving the Marines, etc., etc. Maria spent the money to buy the bus ticket, money, of which, she probably couldn't afford since she was expecting a baby. Maria already tossed her cell-phone or perhaps Cesar did, but in any event, the cell-phone was planted to lead her voluntary departure as a departure and not wanting to be contacted.
Once Cesar told Maria he wasn't going, Maria probably went to the house to confront Cesar. Or Cesar went to meet Maria to discuss his reasons for not going
I am leaning more toward Maria going to Cesar's house because Maria is now really pissed - off and may have decided to plant herself at the house until Christina came home from the Christmas Party and tell Christina of the plans that she had with Cesar.
This would certainly have outraged Cesar and something clearly happened at that point. Reports indicated that blood was in the house as well as in the garage, mostly in the garage.
Did Maria really try and slit her own throat and then was dragged to the garage to get her out of the house? Did Marie go into labor at that point and the child was born causing the loss of a lot of blood found on the garage floor? Did the fracture to Maria's head be the cause of her falling in the house or because she was set on fire?
I am trying to turn the scenario around to where Cesar cut her throat and then hit her and dragged her to the garage. I just can't come up with a good scenario for Cesar to due the cutting of the throat, IF there was an actual cutting of the throat. Regardless of how Maria died, what happened later on the 14th of December set another plan in motion.
Christina was at a Christmas Party and eventually had to return home. At this point, Maria is in the garage and something needs to be done with Maria and quickly.
Cesar is not capable of doing this alone, so Cesar needs to tell Christina what happened when Maria showed up at the house. Whether it be true or not, Cesar told Christina the story as stated in the note.
I have to go back to the Maria's car for a moment since I have her driving to Cesar's house. Perhaps the car was hidden somewhere down the road from Cesar's house and left there for the time being. I feel this is the case based on the fact that Maria was in the garage at that time.
Once Christina came home, Cesar told Christina about the suicide and what took place. At this time, Cesar needed to borrow a shovel from his neighbors and used the excuse that he had to plant flowers.
I feel Maria remained in the garage the entire night of the 14th and it wasn't until the 15th that the shallow grave was dug to place Maria.
Cesar could have been out in the backyard for awhile digging without any of the neighbors being suspicious of the digging since he already indicated to the neighbor he was planting flowers.
Later in the evening of the 15th as darkness approached is when Cesar and Christina brought Maria's body to the shallow grave. I don't feel Christina stayed there while Cesar set the body on fire. Nope, don't feel that!
Thoughts about the neighbors not smelling a foul odor burning probably didn't even phase the neighbors because first, the windows were probably closed due to the weather being cold and the heat on, or perhaps even the weather being warm and the air-conditioning on. Also, trash of many kinds will produce foul odors and since the average person is not really aware of what a body smells like when burned, they couldn't determine that was the odor.
Either later on the 15th or perhaps on the 16th of December, Cesar returned the shovel to his neighbors.
At some point, the garage and room(s) had to be cleaned up and painted. Christina continued the plan in motion by telling the neighbors of the painting that was done in the house and maybe even invited a close neighbor in to look at how great it all turned out.
Now the car is still somewhere, and perhaps eventually the car was placed inside the garage until the next plan was figured out. It's obvious that Maria's car had to be hidden for a longer period of time.
To continue the new plans of Maria leaving the military, based on the note, the ticket, the cell-phone, the money, they had to lead the police in another direction so Cesar went to an ATM to withdraw money on the 24th of December. Reports indicate that Cesar attempted to cover the camera from his face. The reports indicate a white male and Cesar is light enough to be classified in that manner.
To keep life normal within the Laurean home, they invited some military buddies over to have a bar-be-cue in the backyard on Christmas Day. It sickens to me think that this bar-be-cue took place over the shallow grave, but it looks more likely it did than didn't.
This party was a way to give alibi's to the Laurean's via the military based on "who the hell would ever have a bar-be-cue over a dead body!"
As local law enforcement started investigating deeper and harder an now have Cesar's name, the Lauren's needed to complete their plan and a exit for Cesar.
Money is needed and according to reports, there was numerous Western Union money transferred to Cesar and his wife. If Cesar told his family what he did and why he needed money, well law enforcement officials will have to deal with them too!
On January 8th, under darkenss, I believe Cesar drove Maria's car to the bus station and along the way he through out her cell-phone on Highway 24 (I beleive), while Christina followed Cesar in another vehicle to the bus station.
Once the local Sheriff's office brought Maria's disappearance to the media this is when Cesar and his wife had to act quickly. The Lauren's had to have watched the press conference the same time that the world listened. The Lauren's already knew of Maria and by this timeframe, they already had the bank records and record of the bus ticket.
This is why I believe on the evening of the 8th the car was returned and the cell-phone disposed of.
It may have been on the 9th that Cesar contacted a criminal attorney regarding the death of Maria or even on the 10th. The attorney, if there was an attorney could verify if this call was made and if there was an appointment and if he advised Cesar that this warrants the death penalty.
I am not sure if I buy the story of Cesar confessing to his wife on the 10th because I beleive she was made aware of this when she returned home from the Christmas Party on the 14th.
What the Laurean's needed to do was buy some time for Cesar to get away and together they planned the letter of what happened, and Christina giving her husband a 6 hours lead before the police were even aware of this letter.
In 6 hours you can travel 420 miles at 70 mph.
It is only 145 miles and 2 hours from Jacksonville, NC to Durham, NC which means he hung around NC for a while, maybe waiting for money to come through. Maria's ATM card was found on Saturday in Durham, NC.
Around 8:00 AM on Friday, January 11, Sheriff Brown was on The Today Show indicating it was a much more positive direction that Maria will be found and believed alive.
Now at 8:00 AM or thereabouts, Cesar was on the road. Based on reports of his neighbor, Cesar's truck was home at 6:30 AM on the 11th as she saw it while walking her two dogs. I beleive she indicated that the car was not home at 8:00 AM when she went to take her daughter to school.
It wasn't until around 12:30 PM, 4 hours later that the Sheriff indicated that the investigation has gone in another direction based on information they received.
Christina indicated to the police that when she woke up at 4:00 AM her husband was gone and found the note. But it took Christina nearly 8.5 hours before she brought the note to the police.
Did Cesar and Christina sit down over a cup of coffee to listen to the Sheriff giving his report on The Today Show? It wouldn't surprise me if this was the case.
Cesar needed to protect Christina and their 18 month old daughter. Remember, the Mexican culture protects their family to the highest degree. The Laurean's needed to convince the local law enforcement that Christina had nothing to do with helping Cesar bury Maria. There is a young child at stake here, and they are doing everything to keep the child with at least one parent.
Cesar knows if he makes it to Mexico he can blend in with the locals. Heck, he can do this within the USA in most states bordering the west coast and if needed even come to the east coast into Florida.
The questions is "where is Cesar, and who is helping him to hide?" As of this writing, it is 7 days that Cesar is on the run. With all that is happening, the stress level within him is wearing him down along with anyone harbouring him from the FBI and other officials.
I am confused over the letters that "alledgly" have been sent to Maria. It makes me wonder if this was part of the original plan between Maria and Cesar and not that of the recent plan between Christina and Cesar. If there are letters, they would have had to come from within NC and not so much TX. Cesar's truck was found on Tuesday afternoon in Morrisville, NC which is about 17 miles from Durham, NC where the ATM card was found on Saturday.
A well conditioned Marine could easily walk 17 miles from Durham to Morrisville and hop a bus to El Paso. I am sure all officials are tracking any ticket bought to El Paso. I sure hope an ID is required to purchase a ticket! At least I hope this is the case. Even if Cesar was to hop a plane, he still has to show ID to get on the plane.
Could he still be in North Carolina? Only time will tell!
As evidence comes forward from local law enforcement, Marines, FBI, Christina, Maria's actions, Cesar's rage, who is protecting who and why?
Right now I have to take out of the picture the rape charges that Maria filed and put them aside for a moment and just go from December 14th, 2007.
For some strange reason, Maria decided to buy a one-way ticket to El Paso, Texas on the 14th of December, which was to be used the following day on the 15th of December.
It makes no sense at all why a 8 1/2 month pregnant woman would want to go to Texas, a state where she has no relatives, no friends, no doctor, no health insurance, fully knowing she would be AWOL based on military protocol, barely enough clothing and money just to get away from it all.
I remember when I was 8 1/2 months pregnant and needed help just to get off the sofa or toilet bowl never mind taking a bus for hours to another state. Then once in Texas, with no car, no idea where to find the hotel, or a taxi or even the bus schedule, manage to get to a hotel and get a room. This makes no sense to me at all.
I also remember when I moved to Florida from Pennsylvania, not pregnant and felt like this tiny little ant in a gigantic state. I didn't know even how to find my new home without directions and needed to carry directions with me for a while in order to get back I also had to print out directions to get to the store and back.
It is very intimidating when alone in a new state, or even a new city within a familiar state to get around. And with Maria, she didn't even have a car with her.
That brings up another point, why didn't she just drive herself to Texas if she was just going to leave the marines and start a new life? At least she had a car to get around.
Even though there was a Military Order of Protection in force, I need to put this aside also because it's just a piece of paper.
There was some sort of a plan here, a plan perhaps between Maria and Cesar. I started to feel this way after the statement was released that Christina gave to the police:
Cesar Laurean, 21, also told her that Lance Cpl. Maria Lauterbach showed up at his home on Dec. 15 to tell him she was leaving Jacksonville and demanded money from Laurean. The two then went to a bus station where he helped her buy a ticket to El Paso, Texas, the warrant said.
Christina Laurean told Onslow County sheriff's detective John Dubois that a disoriented and agitated Lauterbach returned to Cesar Laurean's house later that night and told him that "her plan had failed, that an argument ensued" and that she produced a knife and killed herself by slitting her throat."
I am beginning to believe Cesar went with Maria to get a bus ticket to El Paso, with the belief Cesar would meet her in El Paso and that Maria would be taken care of by Cesar's family whether within the USA or Mexico.
Note: Mexican families are very family-oriented and take care of their own and keep it within the family Mexican families are very, very close!
Not sure what happened after the ticket was purchased because police feel Maria was killed on the 14th.
My thoughts based on what was reported on Nancy Grace, on Jan Th's show, Christina was not at home on December 14th as she was attending a Christmas Party, of which, Cesar was suppose to come to the party but never showed up.
Neighbor's reported seeing Maria's car on the Laurean street with Cesar driving the car.
Somehow I have to get Maria's car at the bus station and I feel it might have gone this way.
1.) I have to keep in mind that Christina had to have been home during the day before she went to the Christmas Party, so Maria and Cesar had to have met in town to purchase this bus ticket. Maria took her car and Cesar drove his truck.
2.) Or Christina may have been on base (I believe she is in the Marines too but not sure) which then would allow Maria to drive to Cesar's home to pick him up and they went to the bus depot together. I states this only because of Christina's statement to the police that Maria was at the house twice on the 14th.
The plans were set in motion but one of them got cold-feet. Did Cesar call Maria and tell her his plans changed and he isn't going to Texas?
A very young, hormonal pregnant woman would have certainly gotten very upset and could have driven to Cesar's house.
Maria had already left a note for her roommate indicating she was leaving the Marines, etc., etc. Maria spent the money to buy the bus ticket, money, of which, she probably couldn't afford since she was expecting a baby. Maria already tossed her cell-phone or perhaps Cesar did, but in any event, the cell-phone was planted to lead her voluntary departure as a departure and not wanting to be contacted.
Once Cesar told Maria he wasn't going, Maria probably went to the house to confront Cesar. Or Cesar went to meet Maria to discuss his reasons for not going
I am leaning more toward Maria going to Cesar's house because Maria is now really pissed - off and may have decided to plant herself at the house until Christina came home from the Christmas Party and tell Christina of the plans that she had with Cesar.
This would certainly have outraged Cesar and something clearly happened at that point. Reports indicated that blood was in the house as well as in the garage, mostly in the garage.
Did Maria really try and slit her own throat and then was dragged to the garage to get her out of the house? Did Marie go into labor at that point and the child was born causing the loss of a lot of blood found on the garage floor? Did the fracture to Maria's head be the cause of her falling in the house or because she was set on fire?
I am trying to turn the scenario around to where Cesar cut her throat and then hit her and dragged her to the garage. I just can't come up with a good scenario for Cesar to due the cutting of the throat, IF there was an actual cutting of the throat. Regardless of how Maria died, what happened later on the 14th of December set another plan in motion.
Christina was at a Christmas Party and eventually had to return home. At this point, Maria is in the garage and something needs to be done with Maria and quickly.
Cesar is not capable of doing this alone, so Cesar needs to tell Christina what happened when Maria showed up at the house. Whether it be true or not, Cesar told Christina the story as stated in the note.
I have to go back to the Maria's car for a moment since I have her driving to Cesar's house. Perhaps the car was hidden somewhere down the road from Cesar's house and left there for the time being. I feel this is the case based on the fact that Maria was in the garage at that time.
Once Christina came home, Cesar told Christina about the suicide and what took place. At this time, Cesar needed to borrow a shovel from his neighbors and used the excuse that he had to plant flowers.
I feel Maria remained in the garage the entire night of the 14th and it wasn't until the 15th that the shallow grave was dug to place Maria.
Cesar could have been out in the backyard for awhile digging without any of the neighbors being suspicious of the digging since he already indicated to the neighbor he was planting flowers.
Later in the evening of the 15th as darkness approached is when Cesar and Christina brought Maria's body to the shallow grave. I don't feel Christina stayed there while Cesar set the body on fire. Nope, don't feel that!
Thoughts about the neighbors not smelling a foul odor burning probably didn't even phase the neighbors because first, the windows were probably closed due to the weather being cold and the heat on, or perhaps even the weather being warm and the air-conditioning on. Also, trash of many kinds will produce foul odors and since the average person is not really aware of what a body smells like when burned, they couldn't determine that was the odor.
Either later on the 15th or perhaps on the 16th of December, Cesar returned the shovel to his neighbors.
At some point, the garage and room(s) had to be cleaned up and painted. Christina continued the plan in motion by telling the neighbors of the painting that was done in the house and maybe even invited a close neighbor in to look at how great it all turned out.
Now the car is still somewhere, and perhaps eventually the car was placed inside the garage until the next plan was figured out. It's obvious that Maria's car had to be hidden for a longer period of time.
To continue the new plans of Maria leaving the military, based on the note, the ticket, the cell-phone, the money, they had to lead the police in another direction so Cesar went to an ATM to withdraw money on the 24th of December. Reports indicate that Cesar attempted to cover the camera from his face. The reports indicate a white male and Cesar is light enough to be classified in that manner.
To keep life normal within the Laurean home, they invited some military buddies over to have a bar-be-cue in the backyard on Christmas Day. It sickens to me think that this bar-be-cue took place over the shallow grave, but it looks more likely it did than didn't.
This party was a way to give alibi's to the Laurean's via the military based on "who the hell would ever have a bar-be-cue over a dead body!"
As local law enforcement started investigating deeper and harder an now have Cesar's name, the Lauren's needed to complete their plan and a exit for Cesar.
Money is needed and according to reports, there was numerous Western Union money transferred to Cesar and his wife. If Cesar told his family what he did and why he needed money, well law enforcement officials will have to deal with them too!
On January 8th, under darkenss, I believe Cesar drove Maria's car to the bus station and along the way he through out her cell-phone on Highway 24 (I beleive), while Christina followed Cesar in another vehicle to the bus station.
Once the local Sheriff's office brought Maria's disappearance to the media this is when Cesar and his wife had to act quickly. The Lauren's had to have watched the press conference the same time that the world listened. The Lauren's already knew of Maria and by this timeframe, they already had the bank records and record of the bus ticket.
This is why I believe on the evening of the 8th the car was returned and the cell-phone disposed of.
It may have been on the 9th that Cesar contacted a criminal attorney regarding the death of Maria or even on the 10th. The attorney, if there was an attorney could verify if this call was made and if there was an appointment and if he advised Cesar that this warrants the death penalty.
I am not sure if I buy the story of Cesar confessing to his wife on the 10th because I beleive she was made aware of this when she returned home from the Christmas Party on the 14th.
What the Laurean's needed to do was buy some time for Cesar to get away and together they planned the letter of what happened, and Christina giving her husband a 6 hours lead before the police were even aware of this letter.
In 6 hours you can travel 420 miles at 70 mph.
It is only 145 miles and 2 hours from Jacksonville, NC to Durham, NC which means he hung around NC for a while, maybe waiting for money to come through. Maria's ATM card was found on Saturday in Durham, NC.
Around 8:00 AM on Friday, January 11, Sheriff Brown was on The Today Show indicating it was a much more positive direction that Maria will be found and believed alive.
Now at 8:00 AM or thereabouts, Cesar was on the road. Based on reports of his neighbor, Cesar's truck was home at 6:30 AM on the 11th as she saw it while walking her two dogs. I beleive she indicated that the car was not home at 8:00 AM when she went to take her daughter to school.
It wasn't until around 12:30 PM, 4 hours later that the Sheriff indicated that the investigation has gone in another direction based on information they received.
Christina indicated to the police that when she woke up at 4:00 AM her husband was gone and found the note. But it took Christina nearly 8.5 hours before she brought the note to the police.
Did Cesar and Christina sit down over a cup of coffee to listen to the Sheriff giving his report on The Today Show? It wouldn't surprise me if this was the case.
Cesar needed to protect Christina and their 18 month old daughter. Remember, the Mexican culture protects their family to the highest degree. The Laurean's needed to convince the local law enforcement that Christina had nothing to do with helping Cesar bury Maria. There is a young child at stake here, and they are doing everything to keep the child with at least one parent.
Cesar knows if he makes it to Mexico he can blend in with the locals. Heck, he can do this within the USA in most states bordering the west coast and if needed even come to the east coast into Florida.
The questions is "where is Cesar, and who is helping him to hide?" As of this writing, it is 7 days that Cesar is on the run. With all that is happening, the stress level within him is wearing him down along with anyone harbouring him from the FBI and other officials.
I am confused over the letters that "alledgly" have been sent to Maria. It makes me wonder if this was part of the original plan between Maria and Cesar and not that of the recent plan between Christina and Cesar. If there are letters, they would have had to come from within NC and not so much TX. Cesar's truck was found on Tuesday afternoon in Morrisville, NC which is about 17 miles from Durham, NC where the ATM card was found on Saturday.
A well conditioned Marine could easily walk 17 miles from Durham to Morrisville and hop a bus to El Paso. I am sure all officials are tracking any ticket bought to El Paso. I sure hope an ID is required to purchase a ticket! At least I hope this is the case. Even if Cesar was to hop a plane, he still has to show ID to get on the plane.
Could he still be in North Carolina? Only time will tell!
Wednesday, January 16, 2008
Was There Another Side of Maria Lauterback?
On Tuesday, I was glued to the Marine Press Conference as they shared an extensive breakdown of Maria and Cesar. I was setback a bit as I listened to the details of the sexual assault charges, the consensual and non consensual sexual contact and thought, "oh my goodness, there is something wrong here."
As of the other day, the general public was aware of one sexual assault charge against Cesar somewhere in April 2007; now known as April 11, 2007. But then another sexual assault incident on March 26, 2007 comes to light. And then another sexual incident in May 2007 came forward.
The military issued a Military Protection Order to keep Cesar away from Maria, and based on reports they were on opposite sides of the base. All the MPO were consistently renewed except for the last one which expired on December 23, 2007 and was quickly renewed on December 24, 2007 until January 7, 2007.
It is obvious that even though there was a MPO, Cesar and a possible accomplice were able to get a hold of Maria, or did Maria meet up with Cesar?
May 2007, Maria reported another sexual assault charge against Cesar but this charge was later dropped by Maria when she found out her conception of her pregnancy was on or about May 14, 2007.
On June 27, 2007, Maria became ill and went to the base doctor. A pregnancy test was done and the positive result of a pregnancy was determined. Based on size of the uterus, last menstrual cycle, etc. the doctor indicated around May 14, 2007 the time of conception. That would mean an approximate February 14, 2008 birth.
There were no reports of the last OB/GYN examine on November 26, 2007 indicated as a possible new delivery date or an official determination of how far Maria is in her pregnancy.
Reports back from December 19th of when Maria went missing was that she was 8 1/2 months pregnant. If this is true, then it would be possible conception back to March 26, 2007 or April 11, 2007.
Military reports indicate a denial of sexual attack, or one was an sexual attack and one wasn't a sexual attack.
Based on all the reports and time-lines between Cesar and Maria, it appears each of them followed the rules of the military to the letter.
Maria asked for permission to move to off base housing on September 17, 2007. According to the military this was requested and appropriate based on the fact that Maria would be having her child soon after the New Year.
Maria officially moved into off-base housing on November 5, 2007 with Sergeant Daniel Durham. Durham was soon to leave the end of December to go to training for deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan.
I don't want to speak rudely of Maria as she has been killed along with her child and no matter what occured to cause the pregnancy is no reason to cause Maria's demise.
But I can't help thinking if there was some game playing here, some lies, and taunting.
Women, not all women, plays games with men to try and keep them and one of the ways women do this is by saying they are pregnant. Some women will make false allegations against a man just to get even with them.
All you have to do is watch the Court TV shows to see what people do to one another in a relationship. I could share first hand stories myself of what I have seen and the pressure, stress and frustration of what a scorned or scared women could do to a man in an instant!
What happened to push Cesar so far over the edge that he didn't even think straight the day he murdered Maria and the unborn child.
Was Maria's mother really telling the public the truth about Maria being a pathological liar? Even though I was disgusted to hear this on national TV, it has me thinking that it may be more possible than not.
It saddens me to even write these thoughts and no one would have even known about Maria's life within the military and Maria's denials, charges and denials until she went missing. I am sure Maria didn't want the last year of her life spread over the news.
In the end, even if Maria did play head games with Cesar, this is not reason enough to murder Maria and her unborn child.
As of the other day, the general public was aware of one sexual assault charge against Cesar somewhere in April 2007; now known as April 11, 2007. But then another sexual assault incident on March 26, 2007 comes to light. And then another sexual incident in May 2007 came forward.
The military issued a Military Protection Order to keep Cesar away from Maria, and based on reports they were on opposite sides of the base. All the MPO were consistently renewed except for the last one which expired on December 23, 2007 and was quickly renewed on December 24, 2007 until January 7, 2007.
It is obvious that even though there was a MPO, Cesar and a possible accomplice were able to get a hold of Maria, or did Maria meet up with Cesar?
May 2007, Maria reported another sexual assault charge against Cesar but this charge was later dropped by Maria when she found out her conception of her pregnancy was on or about May 14, 2007.
On June 27, 2007, Maria became ill and went to the base doctor. A pregnancy test was done and the positive result of a pregnancy was determined. Based on size of the uterus, last menstrual cycle, etc. the doctor indicated around May 14, 2007 the time of conception. That would mean an approximate February 14, 2008 birth.
There were no reports of the last OB/GYN examine on November 26, 2007 indicated as a possible new delivery date or an official determination of how far Maria is in her pregnancy.
Reports back from December 19th of when Maria went missing was that she was 8 1/2 months pregnant. If this is true, then it would be possible conception back to March 26, 2007 or April 11, 2007.
Military reports indicate a denial of sexual attack, or one was an sexual attack and one wasn't a sexual attack.
Based on all the reports and time-lines between Cesar and Maria, it appears each of them followed the rules of the military to the letter.
Maria asked for permission to move to off base housing on September 17, 2007. According to the military this was requested and appropriate based on the fact that Maria would be having her child soon after the New Year.
Maria officially moved into off-base housing on November 5, 2007 with Sergeant Daniel Durham. Durham was soon to leave the end of December to go to training for deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan.
I don't want to speak rudely of Maria as she has been killed along with her child and no matter what occured to cause the pregnancy is no reason to cause Maria's demise.
But I can't help thinking if there was some game playing here, some lies, and taunting.
Women, not all women, plays games with men to try and keep them and one of the ways women do this is by saying they are pregnant. Some women will make false allegations against a man just to get even with them.
All you have to do is watch the Court TV shows to see what people do to one another in a relationship. I could share first hand stories myself of what I have seen and the pressure, stress and frustration of what a scorned or scared women could do to a man in an instant!
What happened to push Cesar so far over the edge that he didn't even think straight the day he murdered Maria and the unborn child.
Was Maria's mother really telling the public the truth about Maria being a pathological liar? Even though I was disgusted to hear this on national TV, it has me thinking that it may be more possible than not.
It saddens me to even write these thoughts and no one would have even known about Maria's life within the military and Maria's denials, charges and denials until she went missing. I am sure Maria didn't want the last year of her life spread over the news.
In the end, even if Maria did play head games with Cesar, this is not reason enough to murder Maria and her unborn child.
Tuesday, January 15, 2008
After writing my thoughts about Maria, I came across and article online regarding the search for Cesar. At the very end of the article it reads:
Some in the community recalled her drive to follow in her father's footsteps and join the Marines. Her father, Victor Lauterbach, is an Air Force Reserve master sergeant in the 87th Aerial Port Squadron, which is part of the 445th Airlift Wing at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio.
Little did I know, when I wrote: "A child, regardless of gender could have wanted to be a Marine one day like his/her mother!" Maria wanted to follow in her father's foot-steps as a Marine. :(
Some in the community recalled her drive to follow in her father's footsteps and join the Marines. Her father, Victor Lauterbach, is an Air Force Reserve master sergeant in the 87th Aerial Port Squadron, which is part of the 445th Airlift Wing at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio.
Little did I know, when I wrote: "A child, regardless of gender could have wanted to be a Marine one day like his/her mother!" Maria wanted to follow in her father's foot-steps as a Marine. :(
Monday, January 14, 2008
Maria Lauterbach - My Thoughts!
Maria is a beautiful young woman who seems to have been a bit insecure and made a decision to venture out into the world by joining the Marine Corp back in June 2006.
Although her step-mother has stated that Maria's character was that of a pathological liar, bi-polar, etc., etc., Maria may just have decided to prove people wrong when she went to boot camp and made it into the Marines. An accomplishment that is very difficult to achieve even for a man.
Maria's beauty may just have been her downfall on the Camp Lejune Marine base. There is no doubt in my mind she may have been hit on by a majority of the Marines, and possibly even more so from Marines returning back to base from Iraq or Afghanistan. Who could resist Maria's beauty which seems to shine from in-wards out!
No one knows what happened on the April day in 2007 when Maria was sexually attacked by Cesar Armando Laurens. Cesar is married and has a daughter, of which, not sure of the child's age. What possessed him to rape Maria?
In any event, Cesar did and Maria pressed charges against Cesar, which in itself is difficult to do to accuse another Marine of such a heinous attack. In all rape cases whether within the confines of a military base or outside in the normal world, rape is hard to prove, as it is the woman that has to prove it.
Perhaps Maria showered and all evidence was removed, this is unknown. In the case of Cesar, a quick shower will remove any evidence on his body with or without a condom.
So what is left for Maria to prove to her superior and to the Marine Corp that this rape occurred? Maria became pregnant from this rape, and all the evidence of this rape is beginning to grown within her. Maria now has no choice but to wait 9 months until the child is born and DNA is taken from an infant to prove paternity.
Back in the day when doctor's couldn't tell parents the sex of their child, the anxiety of wondering if it is a boy or girl would at times be overwhelming. We seemed to want to know if we should paint the room blue or pink, or what color the baby clothes should be. Instead we settled for yellow or green until the child was born.
These thoughts are so minor compared to what Maria lived through for nearly nine months. The DNA of her child to prove the rape.
Brining a child into the world is God's most precious gift to a woman. She carries the child for 9 months feeling every movement, every urgency to pee, every pound she gains all for this child. With Maria, she felt these same feelings along with, my child will prove my case.
Although Maria filed her charges against Cesar, she still was not safe on base. I can almost hear the harassment from Cesar and Cesar's Marine buddies over these rape charges. I can almost feel how hard it was for her daily walking to her position on base, eating in the commissary and daily life within the base. Maria was a large "flashing" red light of danger and threat and abuse from fellow Marines.
Maria had no choice to seek refuge to living off the base and managed to find a fellow Marine who was concerned over her well-being and he offered to share an apartment with Maria. I am sure Maria didn't foresee this stage of her military career in this fashion.
Although Maria felt she was protected from Cesar as an order of protection was granted based on the charges, but it is very clear that even an order of protection didn't protect Maria and her unborn child.
What happened to Maria on December 14th is still yet to be solved. Maria did meet with her "caseworker" on or about December 14th. Around 1:30 PM or later, Maria spoke with her step-mother and they had a argument/disagreement about something which has yet to come forward. Perhaps Maria wanted to get away from the area for a short time to breath.
Maria wasn't scheduled to report back to base until December 17th, by media reports and newspaper articles. Did Cesar know Maria's schedule or was he stalking her after she met with her caseworker, fully knowing he had to act now or never.
Somehow Maria ended up at Cesar's home alive, or perhaps knocked out enough to transport her to his home. For some reason, I feel someone else was involved with Cesar to help grab Maria, get her out of Cesar car, help kill her, clean up the mess, carry her a way back into the backyard, prepare the shallow grave and set it ablaze.
I have a feeling, that Maria was abducted while she was either getting in or out of her car. Either Cesar or another accomplice may have driven Maria's car to Cesar's house and once their plot to kill and bury Maria was accomplished, then one of them drove Maria's car back to the bus depot and the other followed in either Cesar's truck or another vehicle.
There is a Christmas tree sitting outside of the Lauren's home at the curb-side waiting to be picked up by the trash collector. You can see how neatly it is placed, and also how manicured the outside of the Lauren's home is as a child's slide sits on the front lawn.
Did Maria smell the pine fragrance from the Lauren's Christmas tree as she pleaded for her life in the Lauren's garage? Did Maria hear the Lauren's young child in the house playing as she is fighting for her life?
Maria, did all she could to protect her unborn child from the moment she found out she was pregnant to her last breath at Cesar's hands.
I watched the news coverage and the aerial coverage as the police swarmed in on Lauren's house and uncovered what was to believed to be a fire pit in the farthest point from the Lauren household. As the police put up two white tents to protect the area from the weather, the scene and the helicopter above, I watched a tarp being undone and laid toward the back of the fire pit.
It was very evident that they found the shallow grave and the remains of Maria and her unborn child. For an instant, I was so thankful to hear that the child was still in the womb, but in a second I was so upset to hear that Maria and her unborn child were set on fire as if their lives we nothing but trash to burn.
The crime scene investigators, and perhaps forensic personnel worked with dignity and respect to Maria as they carefully removed inch by inch of soil surrounding Maria and her child.
I know I watched longer than I should as they prepared to bring Maria and her child up from the foot deep grave, carefully lifting her body draped with a white cloth or plastic sheet to ensure her privacy. Sadly the helicopter above did catch a portion of Maria's uncovered head for a mil-la second and what was once a beautiful young woman with long, reddish blond hair was now blackened sight.
This is a vision I wish I had never seen in my life, and put myself in the hands of the many people that worked so hard and carefully and respectfully to bring Maria out of the depth of hell by the Satan with in Cesar.
I will always remember what Sheriff Brown described when he viewed Maria's charred body and the unborn child's hand that was clenched in a fist and was a small as Sheriff's Brown's thumb. Sheriff Brown's words were felt with such pain and sorrow for such a beautiful woman and her child.
Maria never knew what her step-mother was saying about her to the media about being a pathological liar and was bi-polar. I am so thankful that Maria never got to hear her step-mother's words splashed across the world on TV, in the newspaper and online. Within an instant, the world gasped at Maria's step-mother's words over her missing pregnant daughter. We all said "how could she say this to the public?" I was personally annoyed at this step-mother.
I am still unsure if this woman is Maria's step-mother, biological mother or adopted mother. Regardless of this woman's title she was wrong to say what she said about Maria.
Even though Maria may have been insecure in her growing up years, she was strong, very, very strong and Maria was willing to prove to her step-mother and to the Marines that she was really raped and who the father of the child is, Cesar.
Maria was protecting her honor as a woman, and as a Marine. Maria needs to be honored, respected and given the acknowledgment for who she is and her commitment to her unborn child and that of a Marine.
Maria doesn't know it, but she just may have changed the Marine protocol when it comes to women being raped on a military base. It is very clear that the Marines failed to protect Maria, even with orders of protection. An order of protection is just a piece of paper. It doesn't place a bullet proof vest around the body of the victim. It doesn't allow the victim to wear a gun attached to the waist to protect from harm. It's only an 8 1/2 x 11 piece of thin paper, useless to that of a 200 pound, highly trained male Marine or two!
There are and were a lot of missing young women and pregnant women over the years, many of them were killed by the hands of their own husband, boyfriend or of a stranger. This is very heartbreaking as these woman had no protection from harm, but with Maria, she had the entire Marine Corps to protect her, an elite military branch of service that is the first to go and fight for the United States of America. The Marines represent honor to the highest level and they failed on of their own, right here in the USA, a Marine by the name of Maria Lauderbach and her precious unborn child. A child regardless of gender could have wanted to be a Marine one day like his/her mother!
I personally honor Maria for the woman she was and for the mother she would have been.
January 14, 2008 at 7:54 PM
P.S. After writing my thoughts about Maria, I came across and article online regarding the search for Cesar. At the very end of the article it reads:
Some in the community recalled her drive to follow in her father's footsteps and join the Marines. Her father, Victor Lauterbach, is an Air Force Reserve master sergeant in the 87th Aerial Port Squadron, which is part of the 445th Airlift Wing at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio.
Little did I know, when I wrote: "A child regardless of gender could have wanted to be a Marine one day like his/her mother!"; that Maria wanted to follow in her father's foot-steps as a Marine.
Although her step-mother has stated that Maria's character was that of a pathological liar, bi-polar, etc., etc., Maria may just have decided to prove people wrong when she went to boot camp and made it into the Marines. An accomplishment that is very difficult to achieve even for a man.
Maria's beauty may just have been her downfall on the Camp Lejune Marine base. There is no doubt in my mind she may have been hit on by a majority of the Marines, and possibly even more so from Marines returning back to base from Iraq or Afghanistan. Who could resist Maria's beauty which seems to shine from in-wards out!
No one knows what happened on the April day in 2007 when Maria was sexually attacked by Cesar Armando Laurens. Cesar is married and has a daughter, of which, not sure of the child's age. What possessed him to rape Maria?
In any event, Cesar did and Maria pressed charges against Cesar, which in itself is difficult to do to accuse another Marine of such a heinous attack. In all rape cases whether within the confines of a military base or outside in the normal world, rape is hard to prove, as it is the woman that has to prove it.
Perhaps Maria showered and all evidence was removed, this is unknown. In the case of Cesar, a quick shower will remove any evidence on his body with or without a condom.
So what is left for Maria to prove to her superior and to the Marine Corp that this rape occurred? Maria became pregnant from this rape, and all the evidence of this rape is beginning to grown within her. Maria now has no choice but to wait 9 months until the child is born and DNA is taken from an infant to prove paternity.
Back in the day when doctor's couldn't tell parents the sex of their child, the anxiety of wondering if it is a boy or girl would at times be overwhelming. We seemed to want to know if we should paint the room blue or pink, or what color the baby clothes should be. Instead we settled for yellow or green until the child was born.
These thoughts are so minor compared to what Maria lived through for nearly nine months. The DNA of her child to prove the rape.
Brining a child into the world is God's most precious gift to a woman. She carries the child for 9 months feeling every movement, every urgency to pee, every pound she gains all for this child. With Maria, she felt these same feelings along with, my child will prove my case.
Although Maria filed her charges against Cesar, she still was not safe on base. I can almost hear the harassment from Cesar and Cesar's Marine buddies over these rape charges. I can almost feel how hard it was for her daily walking to her position on base, eating in the commissary and daily life within the base. Maria was a large "flashing" red light of danger and threat and abuse from fellow Marines.
Maria had no choice to seek refuge to living off the base and managed to find a fellow Marine who was concerned over her well-being and he offered to share an apartment with Maria. I am sure Maria didn't foresee this stage of her military career in this fashion.
Although Maria felt she was protected from Cesar as an order of protection was granted based on the charges, but it is very clear that even an order of protection didn't protect Maria and her unborn child.
What happened to Maria on December 14th is still yet to be solved. Maria did meet with her "caseworker" on or about December 14th. Around 1:30 PM or later, Maria spoke with her step-mother and they had a argument/disagreement about something which has yet to come forward. Perhaps Maria wanted to get away from the area for a short time to breath.
Maria wasn't scheduled to report back to base until December 17th, by media reports and newspaper articles. Did Cesar know Maria's schedule or was he stalking her after she met with her caseworker, fully knowing he had to act now or never.
Somehow Maria ended up at Cesar's home alive, or perhaps knocked out enough to transport her to his home. For some reason, I feel someone else was involved with Cesar to help grab Maria, get her out of Cesar car, help kill her, clean up the mess, carry her a way back into the backyard, prepare the shallow grave and set it ablaze.
I have a feeling, that Maria was abducted while she was either getting in or out of her car. Either Cesar or another accomplice may have driven Maria's car to Cesar's house and once their plot to kill and bury Maria was accomplished, then one of them drove Maria's car back to the bus depot and the other followed in either Cesar's truck or another vehicle.
There is a Christmas tree sitting outside of the Lauren's home at the curb-side waiting to be picked up by the trash collector. You can see how neatly it is placed, and also how manicured the outside of the Lauren's home is as a child's slide sits on the front lawn.
Did Maria smell the pine fragrance from the Lauren's Christmas tree as she pleaded for her life in the Lauren's garage? Did Maria hear the Lauren's young child in the house playing as she is fighting for her life?
Maria, did all she could to protect her unborn child from the moment she found out she was pregnant to her last breath at Cesar's hands.
I watched the news coverage and the aerial coverage as the police swarmed in on Lauren's house and uncovered what was to believed to be a fire pit in the farthest point from the Lauren household. As the police put up two white tents to protect the area from the weather, the scene and the helicopter above, I watched a tarp being undone and laid toward the back of the fire pit.
It was very evident that they found the shallow grave and the remains of Maria and her unborn child. For an instant, I was so thankful to hear that the child was still in the womb, but in a second I was so upset to hear that Maria and her unborn child were set on fire as if their lives we nothing but trash to burn.
The crime scene investigators, and perhaps forensic personnel worked with dignity and respect to Maria as they carefully removed inch by inch of soil surrounding Maria and her child.
I know I watched longer than I should as they prepared to bring Maria and her child up from the foot deep grave, carefully lifting her body draped with a white cloth or plastic sheet to ensure her privacy. Sadly the helicopter above did catch a portion of Maria's uncovered head for a mil-la second and what was once a beautiful young woman with long, reddish blond hair was now blackened sight.
This is a vision I wish I had never seen in my life, and put myself in the hands of the many people that worked so hard and carefully and respectfully to bring Maria out of the depth of hell by the Satan with in Cesar.
I will always remember what Sheriff Brown described when he viewed Maria's charred body and the unborn child's hand that was clenched in a fist and was a small as Sheriff's Brown's thumb. Sheriff Brown's words were felt with such pain and sorrow for such a beautiful woman and her child.
Maria never knew what her step-mother was saying about her to the media about being a pathological liar and was bi-polar. I am so thankful that Maria never got to hear her step-mother's words splashed across the world on TV, in the newspaper and online. Within an instant, the world gasped at Maria's step-mother's words over her missing pregnant daughter. We all said "how could she say this to the public?" I was personally annoyed at this step-mother.
I am still unsure if this woman is Maria's step-mother, biological mother or adopted mother. Regardless of this woman's title she was wrong to say what she said about Maria.
Even though Maria may have been insecure in her growing up years, she was strong, very, very strong and Maria was willing to prove to her step-mother and to the Marines that she was really raped and who the father of the child is, Cesar.
Maria was protecting her honor as a woman, and as a Marine. Maria needs to be honored, respected and given the acknowledgment for who she is and her commitment to her unborn child and that of a Marine.
Maria doesn't know it, but she just may have changed the Marine protocol when it comes to women being raped on a military base. It is very clear that the Marines failed to protect Maria, even with orders of protection. An order of protection is just a piece of paper. It doesn't place a bullet proof vest around the body of the victim. It doesn't allow the victim to wear a gun attached to the waist to protect from harm. It's only an 8 1/2 x 11 piece of thin paper, useless to that of a 200 pound, highly trained male Marine or two!
There are and were a lot of missing young women and pregnant women over the years, many of them were killed by the hands of their own husband, boyfriend or of a stranger. This is very heartbreaking as these woman had no protection from harm, but with Maria, she had the entire Marine Corps to protect her, an elite military branch of service that is the first to go and fight for the United States of America. The Marines represent honor to the highest level and they failed on of their own, right here in the USA, a Marine by the name of Maria Lauderbach and her precious unborn child. A child regardless of gender could have wanted to be a Marine one day like his/her mother!
I personally honor Maria for the woman she was and for the mother she would have been.
January 14, 2008 at 7:54 PM
P.S. After writing my thoughts about Maria, I came across and article online regarding the search for Cesar. At the very end of the article it reads:
Some in the community recalled her drive to follow in her father's footsteps and join the Marines. Her father, Victor Lauterbach, is an Air Force Reserve master sergeant in the 87th Aerial Port Squadron, which is part of the 445th Airlift Wing at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio.
Little did I know, when I wrote: "A child regardless of gender could have wanted to be a Marine one day like his/her mother!"; that Maria wanted to follow in her father's foot-steps as a Marine.
Friday, January 11, 2008
Bush Had Tears!
A teary-eyed President Bush presents a wreath during visit to Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial and during an hour-long tour of Israel's Holocaust memorial Friday and told Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that the U.S. should have bombed Auschwitz to halt the killing, the memorial's chairman said. Bush was visibly moved as he toured the site, said Yad Vashem's chairman, Avner Shalev."Twice, I saw tears well up in his eyes," Shalev said.
Although this is not the first time Bush came to tears, but now it is a good time he did, at least for me anyway. I am interested to see how the media spins these tears, like they did when Hillary's voice cracked and perhaps her eyes watered the other day, and the media ran with it like they did the Hew Hampshire polls.
Come on media, do the same so the ground is equal on both sides!
Although this is not the first time Bush came to tears, but now it is a good time he did, at least for me anyway. I am interested to see how the media spins these tears, like they did when Hillary's voice cracked and perhaps her eyes watered the other day, and the media ran with it like they did the Hew Hampshire polls.
Come on media, do the same so the ground is equal on both sides!
Ronald Reagan's Shirt-tails!
I had such a crazy dream last night after watching the debate. I didn't realize I was soaking in every time one of the candidates mentioned "Ronald Reagan".
I do know that at one point I thought, come on guys, you have to think on your own and not reference Ronald Reagan all the time because you can't imitate what Ronald Regan did during his term in office because your not Ronald Reagan.
In my dream, the new President (nope didn't see the face) is now at the White House and immediatly asks for all of Ronald Reagan's notes, journals, memos etc., only to find out that Regan's files are locked up and can't be released for another 50 years. I woke up with the new President screaming: "now what will I do?"
I do know that at one point I thought, come on guys, you have to think on your own and not reference Ronald Reagan all the time because you can't imitate what Ronald Regan did during his term in office because your not Ronald Reagan.
In my dream, the new President (nope didn't see the face) is now at the White House and immediatly asks for all of Ronald Reagan's notes, journals, memos etc., only to find out that Regan's files are locked up and can't be released for another 50 years. I woke up with the new President screaming: "now what will I do?"
Thursday, January 10, 2008
Peterson Letter
I just watched Nancy Grace’s interview with Brodsky last night. I found it quite interesting when Nancy jumped on the phone bill and Brodsky saying they seized the phone bill. This seems very odd that the ISP would seize the actual monthly phone bill when they can get the records right from the phone company. In some cases it could be 30 days after the initial calls from October 28Th to show up on a phone bill as it depends on the billing cycle. I wished Nancy would have said something about online cell phone records to check the phone calls. Most cell phone company’s have online cell records and online billing and most of the time you have cellphone number show up online within 12 hours of the phone call. I wish Nancy would have taken this conversation one step more.
Although Brodsky said he knows Drew was in Florida on the 29th because he spoke with him is not sufficient enough because they are talking via cell-phone and you can say your at one place and be somewhere else (like Scott Peterson). Drew’s cell-phone records for that trip along with pings will determine where Drew called or received calls on the 29th. Also Disney World will have a record on when Drew and four children arrived at the Magic Kingdom based on purchasing the tickets and their fingerprints. Yup, they take your fingerprint as you enter.
Hopefully the ISP, will do additional investigation based on this letter and track it back to the 29th and Drew’s whereabouts. If Drew is associated with this letter, not sure what charges can be held against him but maybe it will prove a cover-up in some manner.
Drew also could have dropped the letter off in a mailbox, in that case, mail is usually picked up after 5:00 PM and postmarked for the next day. That would then show the 29th. I also think the way the letter was addressed to Joel Peterson was to try and throw off the police because based on the letter, the individual had a newspaper clipping of Stacy and clearly states Drew as the husband.
Sometimes a guilty person who tries their hardest always screws up even the perfect crime.
Although Brodsky said he knows Drew was in Florida on the 29th because he spoke with him is not sufficient enough because they are talking via cell-phone and you can say your at one place and be somewhere else (like Scott Peterson). Drew’s cell-phone records for that trip along with pings will determine where Drew called or received calls on the 29th. Also Disney World will have a record on when Drew and four children arrived at the Magic Kingdom based on purchasing the tickets and their fingerprints. Yup, they take your fingerprint as you enter.
Hopefully the ISP, will do additional investigation based on this letter and track it back to the 29th and Drew’s whereabouts. If Drew is associated with this letter, not sure what charges can be held against him but maybe it will prove a cover-up in some manner.
Drew also could have dropped the letter off in a mailbox, in that case, mail is usually picked up after 5:00 PM and postmarked for the next day. That would then show the 29th. I also think the way the letter was addressed to Joel Peterson was to try and throw off the police because based on the letter, the individual had a newspaper clipping of Stacy and clearly states Drew as the husband.
Sometimes a guilty person who tries their hardest always screws up even the perfect crime.
Thanks To Tom Brokaw!
With the way the primaries and caucuses are going, we are seeing history right before our very eyes. I find this to be outstanding and quite interesting.
I am not a big fan of politics mainly because most of the reports are reported by the media and the media seems to report their own views, especially their prediction of how the New Hampshire primary would be; "a blow out".
All of my frustrations yesterday was because of a clip that the media, MSNBC in particular played over and over again of Hillary chatting with a some woman over coffee, and her voice cracking explaining her feeling in response to a question. You give MSNBC an inch and they run a mile with it.
I watch MSNBC and NBC because of Tim Russet's evaluation of what is happening in the primaries. He is fair and doesn't nip-pic like the other reporters.
MSNBC ran with polls, exit polls, crowds,women over 30, under 60, men under 30, over 50, blacks, whites, mexicans, asians and the dog population to predict that Obama would blow out Hillary and repeated it over and over again while telling the world a little choking up is going to ruin Hillary.
Once the prediction was made that John McCain won the Republican primary, the first thing MSNBC did was blast John for reading his speech. Chris Matthews, Keith Oberman, and Joe Scarborough along with the other men on the MSNBC panel excluding Tim Russert and Tom Brokow were down right mean to John McCain. Instead of congratulating McCain's win in the primary, they blasted McCain for reading his speech.
Although I personally feel McCain should have spoken from his heart, but the MSNBC team should not have gone so overboard. Keith Oberman apologized on behalf of MSNBC but it was way too late.
As Hillary kept her lead in NH, and too close to call, MSNBC was blabbering over what was going on in the polls. Over and over again repeating that perhaps the media reporting on Hillary's feelings was actually pissing off the woman in New Hampshire to come and and vote. WTF! Then MSNBC went in another direction saying "it's got to be the weather, it's warmer, and more older folks can come out and vote for Hillary. WTF!
The exit polls and candidates staffs calling folks throughout NH became a topic at one point saying: "did the voters lie as they came out of the polls?" I don't know too many people that will tell anyone who they vote for, nor would I tell someone that calls me if I will back a certain candidate.
Once Hillary gave her speech, of course, this was picked on by MSNBC. Oh look, Margaret is not up there with Hillary, oh, neither is Bill or Chelsey, or this person or that person. WTF! I am surprised they didn't comment on what she was wearing.
As my frustration level was creeping to the max over MSNBC commentary of the primary, I thought this is going to be difficult to go to sleep after what happened on MSNBC tonight. Then the blabbering panel asked Tom Brokow for his view and basically he said: "we have to let the voters decide the outcome and pick the candidate and stop with the predictions." This is not verbatim, but darn close to saying "stop all this crap and let real news happen"! This is when I said: "Thank You Tom Brokow", stood up, turn the TV off and went to sleep peacefully! :)
Copied from Jane Devin's website.
President Bush:
The pictures were just what the White House wanted: A teary-eyed President Bush presenting the Medal of Honor posthumously to a slain war hero in the East Room. [Washington Post, 1/12/07]
A tear rolled down Bush's cheek during the event, an extraordinary display of emotion by the commander-in-chief. Bush has been known to tear up and reportedly once cried in a private meeting with war widows. [Chicago Sun-Times, 1/12/07]
Defense Secretary Robert Gates
Robert Gates almost broke down as he gave a speech at a Marine Corps dinner. … Mr Gates's show of feeling suggests that he brings a more human side to the role of defence secretary. [BBC, 7/19/07]
George H.W. Bush
Wiping away tears as he recalled praying at Camp David before ordering the start of the Persian Gulf war, President Bush today offered a testimony of emotion, politics and faith to a cheering crowd of thousands of Southern Baptists. [New York Times, 7/7/91]
http://www.reason.com
I am not a big fan of politics mainly because most of the reports are reported by the media and the media seems to report their own views, especially their prediction of how the New Hampshire primary would be; "a blow out".
All of my frustrations yesterday was because of a clip that the media, MSNBC in particular played over and over again of Hillary chatting with a some woman over coffee, and her voice cracking explaining her feeling in response to a question. You give MSNBC an inch and they run a mile with it.
I watch MSNBC and NBC because of Tim Russet's evaluation of what is happening in the primaries. He is fair and doesn't nip-pic like the other reporters.
MSNBC ran with polls, exit polls, crowds,women over 30, under 60, men under 30, over 50, blacks, whites, mexicans, asians and the dog population to predict that Obama would blow out Hillary and repeated it over and over again while telling the world a little choking up is going to ruin Hillary.
Once the prediction was made that John McCain won the Republican primary, the first thing MSNBC did was blast John for reading his speech. Chris Matthews, Keith Oberman, and Joe Scarborough along with the other men on the MSNBC panel excluding Tim Russert and Tom Brokow were down right mean to John McCain. Instead of congratulating McCain's win in the primary, they blasted McCain for reading his speech.
Although I personally feel McCain should have spoken from his heart, but the MSNBC team should not have gone so overboard. Keith Oberman apologized on behalf of MSNBC but it was way too late.
As Hillary kept her lead in NH, and too close to call, MSNBC was blabbering over what was going on in the polls. Over and over again repeating that perhaps the media reporting on Hillary's feelings was actually pissing off the woman in New Hampshire to come and and vote. WTF! Then MSNBC went in another direction saying "it's got to be the weather, it's warmer, and more older folks can come out and vote for Hillary. WTF!
The exit polls and candidates staffs calling folks throughout NH became a topic at one point saying: "did the voters lie as they came out of the polls?" I don't know too many people that will tell anyone who they vote for, nor would I tell someone that calls me if I will back a certain candidate.
Once Hillary gave her speech, of course, this was picked on by MSNBC. Oh look, Margaret is not up there with Hillary, oh, neither is Bill or Chelsey, or this person or that person. WTF! I am surprised they didn't comment on what she was wearing.
As my frustration level was creeping to the max over MSNBC commentary of the primary, I thought this is going to be difficult to go to sleep after what happened on MSNBC tonight. Then the blabbering panel asked Tom Brokow for his view and basically he said: "we have to let the voters decide the outcome and pick the candidate and stop with the predictions." This is not verbatim, but darn close to saying "stop all this crap and let real news happen"! This is when I said: "Thank You Tom Brokow", stood up, turn the TV off and went to sleep peacefully! :)
Copied from Jane Devin's website.
President Bush:
The pictures were just what the White House wanted: A teary-eyed President Bush presenting the Medal of Honor posthumously to a slain war hero in the East Room. [Washington Post, 1/12/07]
A tear rolled down Bush's cheek during the event, an extraordinary display of emotion by the commander-in-chief. Bush has been known to tear up and reportedly once cried in a private meeting with war widows. [Chicago Sun-Times, 1/12/07]
Defense Secretary Robert Gates
Robert Gates almost broke down as he gave a speech at a Marine Corps dinner. … Mr Gates's show of feeling suggests that he brings a more human side to the role of defence secretary. [BBC, 7/19/07]
George H.W. Bush
Wiping away tears as he recalled praying at Camp David before ordering the start of the Persian Gulf war, President Bush today offered a testimony of emotion, politics and faith to a cheering crowd of thousands of Southern Baptists. [New York Times, 7/7/91]
http://www.reason.com
Monday, December 10, 2007
A Special Friend!
Today is the birthday of a dear friend of mine "Wil." Wil lived across the street from me and we actually met through our dogs.
Wil is no longer here as he past away January 14, 2004 of cancer. Wil and I spoke in length so often of what he was going through. He even allowed me to help care for him by driving him for treatments, or rubbing his sore legs and aching back.
The Thanksgiving before his passing, I got a phone call from Wil asking me if I was alright? I said: "of course" I am fine! Wil said" "Patty, you didn't open your blinds this morning and this is the first time you haven't done that. I was so taken back because it was then that I realized that someone was actually watching over me.
On Wil last birthday, December 10, 2003, his wife had to take him for an early doctor's appointment. I made a big sign and posted on the outside of my house so he could see "Happy Birthday Wil."
I was with Wil about 2 hours before he past and as normal, gave him the news updates like I did daily. I brought him his ice water like it liked, and made sure his medicine was nearby.
On that January day there had been a very large black cloud above the house as I sat and waited as I knew it was going to be today.
I went outside at 4:56 PM with Oprah in the background and made a 12 x 12 area and prepared it to seed with grass. Odd thing to do, but I had no rhyme or reason for doing it that day. Then the phone call came and it was his wife screaming and I ran over to Wil's last breath.
As I went outside tonight to light up the Christmas lights, I looked across the street and there is a lighted star at the top of their house with sparkling white lights dripping down. Wil's wife doesn't live there anymore, but the new neighbors put up this shining star today and little do they know how special that star is to me and to my dear friend Wil. Not only is it lite on his birthday but it will be there throughout the Christmas season is so loved.
Happy Birthday my friend, and I know deep in my soul you are still watching me as I continue to raise the blinds in my home.
Wil is no longer here as he past away January 14, 2004 of cancer. Wil and I spoke in length so often of what he was going through. He even allowed me to help care for him by driving him for treatments, or rubbing his sore legs and aching back.
The Thanksgiving before his passing, I got a phone call from Wil asking me if I was alright? I said: "of course" I am fine! Wil said" "Patty, you didn't open your blinds this morning and this is the first time you haven't done that. I was so taken back because it was then that I realized that someone was actually watching over me.
On Wil last birthday, December 10, 2003, his wife had to take him for an early doctor's appointment. I made a big sign and posted on the outside of my house so he could see "Happy Birthday Wil."
I was with Wil about 2 hours before he past and as normal, gave him the news updates like I did daily. I brought him his ice water like it liked, and made sure his medicine was nearby.
On that January day there had been a very large black cloud above the house as I sat and waited as I knew it was going to be today.
I went outside at 4:56 PM with Oprah in the background and made a 12 x 12 area and prepared it to seed with grass. Odd thing to do, but I had no rhyme or reason for doing it that day. Then the phone call came and it was his wife screaming and I ran over to Wil's last breath.
As I went outside tonight to light up the Christmas lights, I looked across the street and there is a lighted star at the top of their house with sparkling white lights dripping down. Wil's wife doesn't live there anymore, but the new neighbors put up this shining star today and little do they know how special that star is to me and to my dear friend Wil. Not only is it lite on his birthday but it will be there throughout the Christmas season is so loved.
Happy Birthday my friend, and I know deep in my soul you are still watching me as I continue to raise the blinds in my home.
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